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Dec 12, 2008, 10:38 AM
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HELLP!! Need a solenoid for my AEM meth kit - recommendations?
I'm pretty sure my AEM kit's nozzle's leaking meth/water (50/50) into the LICP. especially when the tank's full, I've got this problem where after leaving the car not running for a while, when I start the cold engine, it doesn't start until I reallllyyy crank the ignition. the last time I actually had to crank-start for almost 30s I think before the engine started. and even when the engine started, idle would drop horribly low and sometimes even stall.
probably a meth puddle collecting at the injection site yes? unfortunately the AEM kit doesn't come with a check valve or a solenoid. I've been reading that a solenoid will work better for this purpose. but which one? how's this cooling mist one? will it work with my AEM controller?
http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=11
or any other solenoid you guys can recommend?
help me save my engine from hydrolocking!!! help!
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Dec 12, 2008, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ablaze
I'm pretty sure my AEM kit's nozzle's leaking meth/water (50/50) into the LICP. especially when the tank's full, I've got this problem where after leaving the car not running for a while, when I start the cold engine, it doesn't start until I reallllyyy crank the ignition. the last time I actually had to crank-start for almost 30s I think before the engine started. and even when the engine started, idle would drop horribly low and sometimes even stall.
probably a meth puddle collecting at the injection site yes? unfortunately the AEM kit doesn't come with a check valve or a solenoid. I've been reading that a solenoid will work better for this purpose. but which one? how's this cooling mist one? will it work with my AEM controller?
http://www.coolingmist.com/detailmain.aspx?pid=11
or any other solenoid you guys can recommend?
help me save my engine from hydrolocking!!! help! 
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This has happened to numerous people with the AEM kit.
You get what you pay for. AEM is near the bottom with Aquamist at the top in terms of quality and reliability.
We have had other customers bring in their kits for us to install and tune "at their own risk". Some of which have flooded their engines just like yourself.
That solenoid pictured is crap and made of plastic. It will break after time.
We have metal units rated to 250psi+ which are much more reliable.
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Dec 12, 2008, 10:47 AM
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Hi, thanks for the reply, and help. Could you PM me the price of your solenoid, including shipping to Singapore? would really appreciate your best price on this. thanks!
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Dec 12, 2008, 10:22 PM
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anyway, decided to go with the Labonte solenoid since you didn't reply to my PM..
http://www.labontemotorsports.com/st...ow/FCS-10.html
can somebody tell me which wire for the AEM controller to wire up to the solenoid? I understand it uses a 12v line
I'm thinking the orange line (pump) in the diagram?
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Dec 15, 2008, 11:08 PM
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my aem kit comes with a check valve.
it is a black valve that is hooked up between the pump and the nozzle. do you have it.
check the aem site, there is a check valve in the new system and is on the new install manual.
check with aem or give them a call so that they will get you one for free.
i have not yet install my meth system, put i will run a solenoid along with the check valve just to be sure.
i think the proper way to hook up the solenoid is to tap at the pump line wiring. if the pump is on, the solenoid is on; therefore pumping meth in the intake.
i think that it is important to keep the meth line short between the pump and the nozzle; since when the pump is off (off boost) the meth left inside the feed line can "flood" in the intake (ic pipe in our case) and cause problem.
people should not install pump in the trunk. proper way is to run long meth line from tank (inside trunk) to the pump (under hood) then to the solenoid, then to the check valve.
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Dec 15, 2008, 11:10 PM
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by the way i got the
Labonte solenoid and the
Labonte bkk10 failsafe for my system.
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Dec 15, 2008, 11:20 PM
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what new manual? what new system, Kirk?
http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory...CategoryID=120
all I see are the same old pics and manual. I don't see a check valve anywhere?
anyway, yeah have ordered a Labonte solenoid too..
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Dec 15, 2008, 11:48 PM
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i scan this page in, my manual has the check valve in it.
call aem and get it
see attachment.
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Dec 15, 2008, 11:50 PM
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get the system 1 month ago, probably something new and a quick fix to an ongoing problem.
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Dec 15, 2008, 11:54 PM
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ablaze,
where will you run the check valve if you were me?
before or after the solenoid?
are you running failsafe with your aem system? which one?
what else do you think we will need to run the aem system safely?
since you installed it already, do you like the aem system? is it worth installing at all?
what set up are you running?
i will be running fp red, mx1 cam, upgrade fuel, arp head stud......
how about you?
kl
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Jan 5, 2009, 01:27 PM
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Yea, I am suprized aem is still not proving a checkvalve nore a solnoid with there kits. I know AEM knows about this problem because they "AEM" bought some check valves off of me 6 months ago or so.
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Jan 5, 2009, 10:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Devilsown
Yea, I am suprized aem is still not proving a checkvalve nore a solnoid with there kits. I know AEM knows about this problem because they "AEM" bought some check valves off of me 6 months ago or so.
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my aem kit comes with a plastic check valve but i am going to run a solenoid instead of the check valve because check valve does lowered my injector pressure. is it true?
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Feb 26, 2009, 12:49 AM
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I have this aem kit in my evo 7 its ther 6 months now , no leaking or anything .working great.
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