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torn between these alky kits. help
Guys i have searched and found two alky kits iam torn between, the smc kit and the aquamist kit. Since iam a novice in the alky department iam alittle lost in which kit to get. I like the aquamist kit due to the dds3 system. due these two kits have reliable issues, and can you use denatuer alcohol in the aquamist kit. btw does the aquamist kit need a special additive due to seals in the tank?. any info would help. thanks
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Jul 11, 2006, 05:40 PM
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I don't know much about the aquamist, but I have the SMC in my IX and I love it. It mounts in the trunk, and I've never had a problem with it.
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Jul 11, 2006, 05:42 PM
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Get the AMS one!!! Got bigger & stronger pump! Go look at their site.
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Jul 11, 2006, 06:07 PM
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Get the AMS one!!! Got bigger & stronger pump! Go look at their site.
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could i hook up the dds3 system to it?, i also want to keep the windshield washer bottle, do they make a holding tank that i could install on the driverside of the trunk?
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Jul 11, 2006, 06:17 PM
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I don't know much about the aquamist, but I have the SMC in my IX and I love it. It mounts in the trunk, and I've never had a problem with it.
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when you have a problem, its too late
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Jul 11, 2006, 06:19 PM
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could i hook up the dds3 system to it?, i also want to keep the windshield washer bottle, do they make a holding tank that i could install on the driverside of the trunk?
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yes it can, the dds3 can work as a standalone fail safe, and its a damn good one!
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Jul 11, 2006, 06:34 PM
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can the aquamist run alky or is it just water injection, does it need a special additive to prevent pump failure?
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Jul 11, 2006, 06:51 PM
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can the aquamist run alky or is it just water injection, does it need a special additive to prevent pump failure?
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The Aquamist pump was not designed to be run on denatured alcohol. It will run a methanol and water combo. It can be modified to run a very high percentage of methanol with upgraded seals, you would need to contact Richard Lamb of Aquamist for more information. j3ffw19, I'm glad you're thinking of failsafes. Most of the "alky" users on this forum either don't know what they are or don't bother to use them. Remember it's your car and it's up to you to try and protect it from catostrophic failure in case there is a malfunction. I still say Aquamist is the best around  .
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Jul 11, 2006, 07:09 PM
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Was talking to Richard@Aquamist yesterday and shurflo is custom making a pump specially for aquamist. We should see it in a short time
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Jul 11, 2006, 07:14 PM
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talk to Steve at SMC too...just get a feel for what ur looking into...i have SMC myself.
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Jul 11, 2006, 07:20 PM
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talk to Steve at SMC too...just get a feel for what ur looking into...i have SMC myself.
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ha. why don't you find out where the smc failsafe is too! it was supposed to be out last november! i have no clue why i'm still sitting on this kit.
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Jul 11, 2006, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoTio
The Aquamist pump was not designed to be run on denatured alcohol. It will run a methanol and water combo. It can be modified to run a very high percentage of methanol with upgraded seals, you would need to contact Richard Lamb of Aquamist for more information. j3ffw19, I'm glad you're thinking of failsafes. Most of the "alky" users on this forum either don't know what they are or don't bother to use them. Remember it's your car and it's up to you to try and protect it from catostrophic failure in case there is a malfunction. I still say Aquamist is the best around  .
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thanks, Its hard to make a decision on which alky kit to buy these days. I mean they they all have there pros and cons but i want security in the long run. I want a kit that has failsafes for the added insurance. Sorry about asking alot of question that might have been asked before. I found that gruppe-s sells snow performance with a boost cut failsafe, now if only i could add the dds3 to that i would have two failsafes. Or maybe i would'nt need the dds3, better to be safe then sorry. anyways.. EvoTio and everyone else thats helped me here's to yea
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Jul 11, 2006, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by j3ffw19
Guys i have searched and found two alky kits iam torn between, the smc kit and the aquamist kit. Since iam a novice in the alky department iam alittle lost in which kit to get. I like the aquamist kit due to the dds3 system. due these two kits have reliable issues, and can you use denatuer alcohol in the aquamist kit. btw does the aquamist kit need a special additive due to seals in the tank?. any info would help. thanks
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If you're interested in both kits, why not get them both and integrate them like aresix6 did... SMC & Aquamist DDS integrated...finally done!
I duplicated this set up and received help from him and Richard when I needed it. Pm me if you have questions.
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Jul 11, 2006, 09:40 PM
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Don't forget about the snow performance kits...
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Jul 12, 2006, 08:37 AM
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snow performance kit from gruppe-s has a failsafe, has anybody used the dds3 with that kit.
pretty much what iam looking for in a alky kit is, trunk mounted, has failsafes, can run denatuer alcohol, compatible with the dds3, and ofcourse reliable. Are there any new kits coming out with more failsafes, upgraded pumps.
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