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What Alky Injection is everyone using?? Which one should I get?
Before everyone starts chiming in.....dont just give me \"Buy the (Insert brand here) kit!\" or \"Buy (insert brand here) that kit!\" with no information. Tell me what made you actually buy the kit....if your happy with it.....what kind of power you made...etc....etc...etc
I have been doing alot of research on this lately. Alky seems like my next logical choice in upgrades (check my sig) Especially after talking with Warrtalon on our DC Evo Club website.
My main thing is....im definitely scared to use it. I know that they are coming out with more and more safeguards but none are really foolproof. The Exede seems to have a great safeguard approach but I dont really wanna go that route right now.
Im leaning towards the SMC right now just because of how long they have been doing Grand Nationals and because the 3.0 looks promising. does anyone have alot of experience with the 3.0?
Ultimate CC seems to have great results with the Snow Performance kit and thats defitely another one I have been seriously looking at.
Thanks for everyones input and help in advance.
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Apr 19, 2006, 09:29 AM
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I got SMC 2.0 kit. Love it. Made 100 ft.lb of TQ over the normal 93 octane boost level. Waiting for v3.0.
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Apr 19, 2006, 09:55 AM
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yeah I don't think v3 is out yet. I just installed mine and had AMS tune it last week. Picked up only about 30hp but who cares, my tq jumped from 295 to 383!! That's huge...oh yeah I'm using the SMC
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Apr 19, 2006, 09:57 AM
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Hmm no one even considers the Coolingmist kits? interesting....As they are one of the top brands in water/meth/alky injection...
check their kits out at www.coolingmist.com
they have many nice features, great customer service and top notch products
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Apr 19, 2006, 10:10 AM
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I got SMC 2.0 kit. Love it. Made 100 ft.lb of TQ over the normal 93 octane boost level. Waiting for v3.0.
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where did you get your tune done at? Does anyone have a release date on 3.0? What are going to be the new features of 3.0 as apposed to the 2.0? Digital instead of the dial control? Do you have yours set to start spraying at 18lbs? Are you boosting to like 26 or 28lbs? Sorry for all the questions I just want to be sure of my next investment.....and I want to be as safe as possible.
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Apr 19, 2006, 10:45 AM
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where did you get your tune done at? Does anyone have a release date on 3.0? What are going to be the new features of 3.0 as apposed to the 2.0? Digital instead of the dial control? Do you have yours set to start spraying at 18lbs? Are you boosting to like 26 or 28lbs? Sorry for all the questions I just want to be sure of my next investment.....and I want to be as safe as possible.
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I have no clue about v3.0. Sorry.
I was first custom tuned by Dynoflash over a year ago. Then about 4 months ago I tuned the car myself with ECU+(with a different ECU but I "copied" the timing curve from the flash:}).
I set the spray at ~16PSI and max at 23-24PSI. Boost spikes to ~30 PSI and fall to wherever. 10# nozzle. 100% Methanol and 93 octane. AFR @ 11.4-11.5 to one. Timing @ about 21-22 deg at 7K.
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Apr 19, 2006, 10:50 AM
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I start spraying at about 12lbs and max is at 20. I peak at 27 tapering to about 21. 11.0af
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Apr 19, 2006, 12:48 PM
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I have no clue about v3.0. Sorry.
I was first custom tuned by Dynoflash over a year ago. Then about 4 months ago I tuned the car myself with ECU+(with a different ECU but I \"copied\" the timing curve from the flash:}).
I set the spray at ~16PSI and max at 23-24PSI. Boost spikes to ~30 PSI and fall to wherever. 10# nozzle. 100% Methanol and 93 octane. AFR @ 11.4-11.5 to one. Timing @ about 21-22 deg at 7K.
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Nice...are you local to the NOVA area?? I know Mach V is a big ECU+ seller. Did you dyno tune it or road tune it with a wideband?
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I just got the SMC kit installed and tuned. Works like a charm.
Spray starts at 10psi with full spray by 20psi. Max boost is about 26psi, but I am still running a high flow cat.
I gained about 30whp/tq....could have gotten more boost and power if not for the HFC.
Awesome kit though, and great support and service from SMC!!!
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Apr 19, 2006, 01:47 PM
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Nice...are you local to the NOVA area?? I know Mach V is a big ECU+ seller. Did you dyno tune it or road tune it with a wideband?
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Where is Nova? Im in Birmingham, Alabama (RedNeck town  .
Yup I roadtune mine with the Zeitronix WB  .
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Apr 19, 2006, 01:49 PM
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I just got the SMC kit installed and tuned. Works like a charm.
Spray starts at 10psi with full spray by 20psi. Max boost is about 26psi, but I am still running a high flow cat.
I gained about 30whp/tq....could have gotten more boost and power if not for the HFC.
Awesome kit though, and great support and service from SMC!!!
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who tuned this for you?
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Apr 19, 2006, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by steinvb12
I just got the SMC kit installed and tuned. Works like a charm.
Spray starts at 10psi with full spray by 20psi. Max boost is about 26psi, but I am still running a high flow cat.
I gained about 30whp/tq....could have gotten more boost and power if not for the HFC.
Awesome kit though, and great support and service from SMC!!!
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Where did you get it tuned?
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I think I am probably one of the few that is running a "devilsown" alcohol injection kit. The main reasons that I bought it were because I have a few friends with SRT-4's that use it, and it is quite a bit cheaper than any other kit. I initially put down 340 HP/340TQ and this kit jumped me up to 367HP/393TQ. I start apraying arond 10 PSI and I'm at MAX around 23PSI. I hit full boost at 27PSI. At the time I was having a few boost issues, so I need to get back to a dyno and see how much I'm putting down, now that I have everything fixed.
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Where is Nova? Im in Birmingham, Alabama (RedNeck town .
Yup I roadtune mine with the Zeitronix WB . |
Oh...NOVA is short for Northern Virginia. I know alot of guys around here use ECU+. I personally am not a tech head...more a wrench monkey so I am not money enough to tune my own ECU.
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I think I am probably one of the few that is running a \\\"devilsown\\\" alcohol injection kit. The main reasons that I bought it were because I have a few friends with SRT-4\\\'s that use it, and it is quite a bit cheaper than any other kit. I initially put down 340 HP/340TQ and this kit jumped me up to 367HP/393TQ. I start apraying arond 10 PSI and I\\\'m at MAX around 23PSI. I hit full boost at 27PSI. At the time I was having a few boost issues, so I need to get back to a dyno and see how much I\\\'m putting down, now that I have everything fixed.
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Yeah those are good numbers and you are close to me as well since I have seen you on DCEVO before and I am in Waldorf. What kind of failsafes does that kit have? I might want to take a look at it one time.
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