Denatured alcohol = Methanol ??? - Page 2

SlowCar · Nov 26, 2005, 08:16 PM

trying to control flow rate by varying pump duty is just a stupid way to do things.

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Originally Posted by 8ASTI

Have fun when ur kit malfunctions. I have heard nothing but bad things and besides HEARING I went through 2 controllers myself and the kit malfunctioned on me constantly. Its like playing Russian Roulette with the SMC alk kit. I have yet to hear anything about AMS kit though. I know there are people out there with a functioning kit with no issues but like I said its like Russin Roulette.

SlowCar · Nov 26, 2005, 08:19 PM

You will like PD's work!

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Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8

Well, for safeguarding I will be using an AEM EMS to protect me from malfunctions.

I'm getting all my mods installed and tuned by Precision Dyno in Philly the first week of December.

DragNRacing · Nov 26, 2005, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TrinaBabe

Hey Trevor, you know anyone around us that has Meth? I cant seem to find anyone local enough for me to drive to and pick up and it sucks to have to pay the $30+ charge for shipping on small amounts like 5-10 gallons.

There is a chemicals place here in La Crosse where I was told I can get it for $4 a gallon but I'm not sure if it is as good as the VP stuff. The JR dragster I have for Austin runs straight meth and I'm planning on getting methanol injection. I will try to give the guy a call that I bought the dragster from and see what I can do to get the price and availability firmed up.

DragNRacing · Nov 26, 2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8

At this time i may just run windshield washer fluid, even water since its cheaper than the other exotic chemicals.

I've read the extra additives in windshield washer fluid can leave residue when it dries. However, I have also seen this with methanol. The stainless tank that is on my son's JR dragster has a white residue after it dries and the guy I bought it from told me to run it completely out.

Nesiop · Nov 26, 2005, 08:31 PM

I currently run that Denatured alchy from Home Depot, but it is sooo expensive so I plan on ordering a small drum of VP M1 Methanol.....

My question is: I am going for a tune right before I put my car away for the winter, I sitll have some of that denatured alchy left. If tuned with that and starting in the spring I use M1 is it going to throw the tune of or not even noticable? Reason I ask is because no point in ordering it now, but I will run it because it is much cheaper than denatured alcohol.

Blue Evo 8 · Nov 26, 2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DragNRacing

I've read the extra additives in windshield washer fluid can leave residue when it dries. However, I have also seen this with methanol. The stainless tank that is on my son's JR dragster has a white residue after it dries and the guy I bought it from told me to run it completely out.

Is the residue stuff something we should worry about? I mean....unless I run the tank dry and leave it empty for a few days ... maybe

Blue Evo 8 · Nov 26, 2005, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowCar

You will like PD's work!

I have confidence in their work.... i'm looking to max out the stock 05 Turbo with Alky and AEM and HKS 280's

SlowCar · Nov 26, 2005, 08:37 PM

basically the tech grade methanol 99% from chemical place should be good enough, you are not drinking it, just burning it up. Good price tho!

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Originally Posted by DragNRacing

There is a chemicals place here in La Crosse where I was told I can get it for $4 a gallon but I'm not sure if it is as good as the VP stuff. The JR dragster I have for Austin runs straight meth and I'm planning on getting methanol injection. I will try to give the guy a call that I bought the dragster from and see what I can do to get the price and availability firmed up.

DragNRacing · Nov 26, 2005, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8

Is the residue stuff something we should worry about? I mean....unless I run the tank dry and leave it empty for a few days ... maybe

I really can't say what effect the residue will have on the injection kit. I'm thinking it may be a good idea to disconnect the injection hose from time to time and run water through the system to try and flush it out if you see any residue. From what I saw of the residue, it is a chalky white powder. I am also wondering if the higher quality VP methanol has the same residue effect. It should be fine with other parts of the engine as there will always be enough gasoline blend.

SlowCar · Nov 26, 2005, 08:45 PM

Is it a 50/50 mix or straight methanol? Also there is no aluminum in contact with the solution right...like the cap on the SS bottle...?

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Originally Posted by DragNRacing

I really can't say what effect the residue will have on the injection kit. I'm thinking it may be a good idea to disconnect the injection hose from time to time and run water through the system to try and flush it out if you see any residue. From what I saw of the residue, it is a chalky white powder. I am also wondering if the higher quality VP methanol has the same residue effect. It should be fine with other parts of the engine as there will always be enough gasoline blend.

Nesiop · Nov 26, 2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nesiop

I currently run that Denatured alchy from Home Depot, but it is sooo expensive so I plan on ordering a small drum of VP M1 Methanol.....

My question is: I am going for a tune right before I put my car away for the winter, I sitll have some of that denatured alchy left. If tuned with that and starting in the spring I use M1 is it going to throw the tune of or not even noticable? Reason I ask is because no point in ordering it now, but I will run it because it is much cheaper than denatured alcohol.

Bump...

DragNRacing · Nov 26, 2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowCar

Is it a 50/50 mix or straight methanol? Also there is no aluminum in contact with the solution right...like the cap on the SS bottle...?

His dragster runs straight methanol. The bottle appears to be completely SS. The residue I saw was toward the bottom of the bottle where a little bit had puddled. I can also see it some in the transparent fuel lines.

TrinaBabe · Nov 27, 2005, 12:26 AM

I am pretty sure methanol is methanol. I dont think it should honestly matter as long as it isnt diluted. Every place I called has 99.5-99.9 pure methanol which is just as good as VP's from what I can see. I may need to pick up some meth when i drive down that way. I still cant seem to find anything here in Madison

Ill let ya know how the car does with the meth.... so far it seems 30psi on my baby turbo works ok so it should be pretty fun times.

fromWRXtoEVO · Nov 27, 2005, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Evo 8

Sorry for the dumb question but I'm no chemist.

I just came from from my local home depot which is like 10 minutes away from me.

I was looking for methanol but only found "denatured alcohol" in the paint section, which was selling for like $11.99 a gallon...

I just bought an SMC alky kit and was trying to figure out what kinda juice to run.

At this time i may just run windshield washer fluid, even water since its cheaper than the other exotic chemicals.

That is a good question. Everyone talks about $3 a gallon of alcohol and all that but like you said, I also saw the alcohol at Home Depot for $11.

damianhindley · Nov 27, 2005, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TrinaBabe

I am pretty sure methanol is methanol. I dont think it should honestly matter as long as it isnt diluted. Every place I called has 99.5-99.9 pure methanol which is just as good as VP's from what I can see. I may need to pick up some meth when i drive down that way. I still cant seem to find anything here in Madison

Ill let ya know how the car does with the meth.... so far it seems 30psi on my baby turbo works ok so it should be pretty fun times.

When you sya "everywhere you call" what are these places, not hating i just need some ideas. thanks man