Calling on 05 tranny gurus...

LetItBreath · May 3, 2006, 09:00 AM

A great DIY thread would be changing the tranny and not having to bleed the ACD. I've heard from a few people that theres a way to do it without needing to bleed it when your done. If nothing else, maybe someone can finally put the believe to rest with some hard info that you HAVE to bleed it always using the MUT III tool. Anyone with some hard knowledge on this, please share the info...

Juiced · May 3, 2006, 05:56 PM

Another way to bleed the acd is to turn the ignition to "on" without turning the motor over and pressing the gas pedal. This activates teh ACD pump for 20-30 seconds. you might have to repeat the process 4-7 times.

LetItBreath · May 3, 2006, 07:59 PM

Has this been proven to work? Are there any mitsu techs that can confirm this? I dont mean that in a wiseass manner at all, I've just heard many different sides to this and would like to KNOW what can and can't be done.

**Brian** · May 4, 2006, 01:22 AM

I certainly hope that it works, I've read accounts of people saying that it works but haven't herad one of it not working. Perhaps with some of the advancements over at openecu and with more people tinkering with their ecu's we may have a way in the near future to possibly prime it in the same way a factory tech would.

Anyways, it's similar to doing a clutch in pre 05's until you get to one of the TC bolts. The bolt that's the problem child is on the top side of the TC and is one of the harder bolts to get ahold of because of its position and because most of your access ot it is being blocked by the ACD line. Breaking the ACD line loose to get to the bolt will mean that your system will have to be bled after its put back together.

The trick that many attempt to do is to break the bolt loose behind the ACD Line/Banjo Bolt. You wont be able to unscrew the bolt connecting the tc & the trans all the way, so you will have to break it loose and then unscrew it slowly while seperating the transmission from the TC. Attempting to remove it in this way can be a bit of a pain as you're not working with much space and it's very hard to get leverage on that bolt to break it loose.

Hopefully the attached photo's will help people realize what they're up against.

AMSTuning.com · May 4, 2006, 11:23 AM

We've done several 05 clutches, and have been successful in not disconnecting the ACD setup, thereby not requiring the system to be bled afterwards.

I'll get Dan to post mmore specifics.

Cory

Dyno4mance · May 8, 2006, 09:30 PM

we do ACD clutches also without disconecting...we have made a few tools to help the process

LetItBreath · May 18, 2006, 06:22 AM

do you think you could post a couple pics of the tools you made?

AMSTuning.com · May 18, 2006, 07:52 AM

THERE ARE NO CUSTOM TOOLS!

The trick is to break the T-CASE bolt that rubs the ACD line loose with any sort of 17mm wrench. Make this bolt the last to come out, meaning that you back it out with your hand as the t-case starts separating. Done.

SuperHatch · May 18, 2006, 08:23 AM

You don't "need" a custom tool, but whats wrong with making one that makes the job easier. Andrew said they made a few tools to "help" the process. Helping means it makes it easier, not that the tool is necessary. I, for one, am interested in seeing what he made....

DaWorstPlaya · May 18, 2006, 10:50 AM

Superhatch: I would assume they (Dyno4mance) are using a ratchet wrench (you know the craftman wrench you can turn without taking off) of some sort ... probably put a flex joint on the other end so it is easier to turn ...

SuperHatch · May 18, 2006, 11:22 AM

Judging from this picture:

There is no way you're getting a socket with a flex head on there. A crowfoot would only help in breaking it loose but would be a pain to use for removal. I know a standard length ratcheting wrench won't fit in that area. My guess is use a crowfoot or stubby wrench modified to accept an extension and ratchet to break it lose, then use a stubby or flex ratcheting wrench to remove the both while sliding the tranny off.

**Brian** · May 18, 2006, 11:23 AM

I had a crowsfoot and I couldn't get hte leverage to get it off. I wound up pulling the ACD line and making a nice mess.

evo3barboost · Jun 8, 2006, 02:16 PM

I have done this a few times without bleeding anything ! no ill effects !
what I want to know is how on earth did you get a camera in there for those shots ! those bolts are a pain to reach through the wheel well with lots and lots of extension bars for the sockets ! so how did the camera get in there

**Brian** · Jun 8, 2006, 02:20 PM

Just took the passenger side axle & downpipe off and it was easy.

BaLListic_EVO · Jun 19, 2006, 08:29 PM

i had to make the mess on my friends o5 and bleeding the ACD using the following method worked fine. i did this about 4-5 months ago works like a charm! its more of a pita to leave the line on imho!....