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TTP-Engineering Tuned STOCK Evo X - +107whp + 106wtq MD - WITHOUT ECU REFLASH!

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Old Jul 4, 2008, 09:56 PM
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TTP-Engineering Tuned STOCK Evo X - +107whp + 106wtq MD - WITHOUT ECU REFLASH!

Just got word that Scott @ TTP spent 4th of July at the shop making a breakthrough in Evo X history. On the STOCK Evo X with full stock exhaust, no intake, no performance upgrades and an $85 Forge UNOS, TTP extracted 85whp and 65ft lbs of torque from the Evo X.

I'm sure he will be chiming in as soon as he gets a chance and scans in the data to post up here.

I am truly amazed and in awe at what is possible with this car! 337.2whp on a Mustang Dyno AWD is what CAMMED, TBE, Intake, FP Evo 8's and IX's put down!

Makes me want to trade in my IX MR for a X. Seriously. Knew it was only a matter of time before a shop came up with an alternative method of tuning a X instead of the $750 EcuTeK or AEM FIC.

Congrats Scott & TTP!
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Yes, unfortunately Hugo let the cat out of the bag earlier than we anticipated. Our testing on the X last night broke new ground and we unlocked a hidden beast within. It is still a little early on, but we will likely be developing a "chip" that the end user would be able to install to achieve these results without the reflash.

Our testing revealed that OUR 2008 Lancer Evolution X basedlined at 252whp/256wtq:

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Our testing showed that the Evo X baseline quarter mile was 13.6 @ 98mph:

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After adding a FORGE UNOS MBC, we tested the Evo X under various boost conditions. In the end, the best curve was the stock BCS curve as the car ran richer and richer, the higher the boost. Only gains were made from 6000-7500. In this area the maximum gains were +29whp, however the HP was lower than stock before 6000rpms. In the end, the curve just looked like crap and the car was "jerky" We tested up to 24.5psi tapering to 18psi. Overall we felt this was a big waste of time and gas.

After installing our Evo X TTP BETA Chip and turning the boost all the way down once again to insure we didn't overdo it, we ran a few tests, making changes along the way. After about 3-4 pulls, we realized what we were doing was making a difference! This was exciting for us. At low boost we continued adjusting over and over as we watched the power jump from 240whp at low boost, to 243whp, to 248whp, then a jump to 266whp, then into the 280whp range. Before even touching the boost we were at 317+whp on LOWER than stock boost!

Once we rounded out the AFR as best as we could with the chip, we then began to adjust the boost. Before long we were into 324whp, 331whp, 334whp, then 337.2whp with 321tq! Boost we found to work the best at about 23psi tapering to 17.3psi with the TTP Chip.

Well, here are the final numbers before we ran out of fuel:
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And the stock to TTP Chip with Forge UNOS:

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Here is the proceeding quarter mile results. I had a hard time keeping the car straight on the dyno. The surprising jump in power wanted to torque the car sideways as you can see in the video below. Here is the timeslip for now:

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I was excited about the results, so I wedged a digital camera in the dash and widshield and recorded a quarter mile run with the camera pointed at the screen. You can clearly see the HP numbers on the screen on the video as well as boost.

Enjoy:

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so what does this chip control or do?
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Wow, that's awesome. How much for one?
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did you at least have a drop in filter, crazy numbers i thought chips were a thing you throw on a 87 camaro,lol.
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Originally Posted by kinloch99
did you at least have a drop in filter, crazy numbers i thought chips were a thing you throw on a 87 camaro,lol.
Nope, stock air filter.
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great work...this would actually make me get an X if your test car doesn't blow up today,lol. i wanted a car with more power but not the loud exhaust, better start making alot of those things, also why was this chip not used on the evo 8-9 ?
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Originally Posted by kinloch99
great work...this would actually make me get an X if your test car doesn't blow up today,lol. i wanted a car with more power but not the loud exhaust, better start making alot of those things, also why was this chip not used on the evo 8-9 ?
We were monitoring AFR via ZEITRONIX WIDEBAND, KAVLICO medical grade precision pressure transducer, as well as ignition timing via DASHDAQ touchscreen LCD monitor.

This is one of those times where having a REAL DYNO actually shines. I couldn't imagine monitoring all of those laptops, touchscreen display as well as the dyno computer all the while trying not to run into the back of other cars and not crossing the double yellow lines.

The Evo X is a whole new beast. There are a number of things that have drastically changed on this car over the prior years Evos.
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Needless to say great job TTP. I love that dyno you guys use.
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Impressive numbers! Can't wait to see more numbers after some bolt-ons.
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Great job that is truely an accomplishment. Let the car breath better, throw some parts on it.
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i'd like to hear a little bit more about this "chip" as in what is involved with the install and how it exactly works. Is it like this vishnu box that you basically "splice" into the ecu and control timing and fuel or is it something completely different?
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Awesome results. Cant wait to see whats coming when bolt on's are added.
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Sounds similar to what perrin was doing, although they had some bolt ons
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AFR's still in the 9's according to that vid...

Interesting.


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