Ft-86

[boondoc]

Here is the test mule. The front is definately a Subie but the rear i jus can't figure out but it does look familiar. http://www.worldcarfans.com/10910132...me/lowphotos#1

[RuckerPark]

Subaru 086A

[GPTourer]

^^^^That's just a rendering. It looks nice, but compared to the test mule it may be just a fantasy:

[krnkimchi702]

i dont understand... your comparing a test mule to a rendering??

[otter]

Originally Posted by GPTourer

^^^^That's just a rendering. It looks nice, but compared to the test mule it may be just a fantasy:

I think that's about the best camo job I've ever seen on a mule. It's like an M roadster, a Focus, and a truck had a 3-way.

[LI Pinky]

I don;t get the hype...I hate the choice of power plant

[GPTourer]

Originally Posted by krnkimchi702

i dont understand... your comparing a test mule to a rendering??

Okay test mule is a poor choice of words. It looks to be a camo'd production car/prototype. Whatever you want to call it you can clearly see the rendering is fantasy and the real car will not look like that. I can see the Subie grille and headlamp treatment from the WRX, also the A-pillar and roof line is not camo'd and is too late to change this late in the game. The blue rendering uses the Skyline/370 Roof A-pillar.

[boondoc]

More pics and details.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/10910152...ll-the-details

[4Trouble]

Originally Posted by GPTourer

Okay test mule is a poor choice of words. It looks to be a camo'd production car/prototype. Whatever you want to call it you can clearly see the rendering is fantasy and the real car will not look like that. I can see the Subie grille and headlamp treatment from the WRX, also the A-pillar and roof line is not camo'd and is too late to change this late in the game. The blue rendering uses the Skyline/370 Roof A-pillar.

Manufacturers sometimes use old shells or combinations of chopped shells as camo sometimes, for example Ferrari used F355 shell for some Enzo engined mule.

I don't think any Manufacturer would suddenly go that low with waistline on their mainstream cars these days. Toyota has never been a company known to do revolutionary or daring designs. The whole car looks like some 80's car with Merkur XR4Ti copy on the back and some really messed up doors that doesn't flow with the waistline, then slap on WRX STI's front. I can almost guarantee that the final product would look much more closer to the rendering, but with milder look.

[boondoc]

Originally Posted by 4Trouble

Manufacturers sometimes use old shells or combinations of chopped shells as camo sometimes, for example Ferrari used F355 shell for some Enzo engined mule.

I don't think any Manufacturer would suddenly go that low with waistline on their mainstream cars these days. Toyota has never been a company known to do revolutionary or daring designs. The whole car looks like some 80's car with Merkur XR4Ti copy on the back and some really messed up doors that doesn't flow with the waistline, then slap on WRX STI's front. I can almost guarantee that the final product would look much more closer to the rendering, but with milder look.

+1 Mitsu did the same with the new lancer. they used the Evo rear and the Lancer front.

[GPTourer]

Originally Posted by 4Trouble

Manufacturers sometimes use old shells or combinations of chopped shells as camo sometimes, for example Ferrari used F355 shell for some Enzo engined mule.

I understand that. I don't believe this to be an chopped shell engineering mule. I think this is a disguised production car. We are past the point of mules if they are planning on releasing the car with in the next year to year and a half.

I saw an engineering mule a while back and it looked like a hacked up Legacy, which is the platform of which this car is based.

[boondoc]

Originally Posted by GPTourer

I understand that. I don't believe this to be an chopped shell engineering mule. I think this is a disguised production car. We are past the point of mules if they are planning on releasing the car with in the next year to year and a half.

I saw an engineering mule a while back and it looked like a hacked up Legacy, which is the platform of which this car is based.

Are u sure it's based off the legacy's platform? It would make better sense to based it off the Impreza type platform. I'm still think this is a mule, it looks too clumsy to be a production-prototype. My guess is that they are jus making last minute adjustments and information gathering before moving onto the actual prototype. Porsche had their 2010 911 mule running around mid last year and they are out now.

[GPTourer]

Originally Posted by boondoc

Are u sure it's based off the legacy's platform? It would make better sense to based it off the Impreza type platform.

I'm not sure of anything, as what I read was from something translated from some Japanese auto gossip site. But from what I understand the Impreza and Legacy ride on similar platforms, wether or not the Impreza is a chopped Legacy or Legacy is a lengthened Impreza there are similarities. Its Toyota's job to oversee transforming the Subaru platform into a RWD chassis.

I'm still think this is a mule, it looks too clumsy to be a production-prototype. My guess is that they are jus making last minute adjustments and information gathering before moving onto the actual prototype. Porsche had their 2010 911 mule running around mid last year and they are out now.

Looking back at what is supposedly a production ready FT-86 I see a lot of differences from the camo'd car above that makes me think you're right. IF these cars are sharing most everything it be too expensive to have such a drastic difference in the door frames and overall shape.

[btlegacy]

The current gen (08+) WRX is built on a chopped Legacy (05-09) platform so it would make sense that this would be built on a similar platform

[tomeks]

Lexus LFA Video from the 2009 Tokyo Motor Show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDsXsdNgov0