X Games Rally Roster Announced

[Makkinen II]

Maybe next year they will give everone back their codrivers. Some of them definately needed someone giving directions. The announcers may be legally retarded, when acp lost the front end including the skidplate and you could see very easily that there was no intercooler anymore and they kept talking about suspension problems when it was clear the car had lost alot of power. It was handling fine. I almost turned it off after that. On the plus side those fiestas are impressive little cars.

[cfdfireman1]

I raced against GRUSZKA this past year and yes he needed a Co-Driver even on a 12 turn ice track.

[Evo_Someday]

Originally Posted by xspsi4

Kenny Brack won which I saw comming form a mile away, He has driving skill for sure.

I'm going to do more analysis on the video but from what I can see it would appear that he kept it nice and smooth with minimal sliding around. His run, aside from the hairpins, lacked the stylistic drift that is seen from the other rally drivers - particularly from drivers like Foust and Pastrana.

I could be out of line when I say this but it really looked like he ran it in a "point and shoot" autocross style which, for this course, may be the right technique.

Again, just my preliminary opinion which I may revise after reviewing the video again.

[WannaRace]

Originally Posted by Evo_Someday

I'm going to do more analysis on the video but from what I can see it would appear that he kept it nice and smooth with minimal sliding around. His run, aside from the hairpins, lacked the stylistic drift that is seen from the other rally drivers - particularly from drivers like Foust and Pastrana.

I could be out of line when I say this but it really looked like he ran it in a "point and shoot" autocross style which, for this course, may be the right technique.

Again, just my preliminary opinion which I may revise after reviewing the video again.

Agreed. I couldn't have said it any different!

[EricJ@AMS]

How much of those Fiestas are actually a Fiesta? The car is a fwd na platform, yet the rally variant is a turbocharged awd longitudinal engine layout. Is it really fair for production based awd cars to compete against a totally custom engineered car? I wish they still required homologated street versions of the car with the same drivetrain layout to be produced.

[TTP Engineering]

X games is a spectacle. Rules like that don't apply.

I am still angry we lost FIA WRC on speed for this nascar bullcrap.

[xspsi4]

I agree totally^^
I think the evo's are way front heavy and actually needed some weight in the rear to make the landing more smooth but if you noticed Brack would hit his brakes to scrub some speed before the jump so I think the balls out wot approach is not the best, I will have to talk to Adam who is the crewchief for both teams of the evo's and get a good amount of feedback from him as to how it was there.

[Billy@EnglishRacing]

Originally Posted by xspsi4

I will have to talk to Adam who is the crewchief for both teams of the evo's and get a good amount of feedback from him as to how it was there.

Make sure you let us know, i am really curious to know his opinions on the jump and the event

[dbsears]

Originally Posted by TTP Engineering

X games is a spectacle. Rules like that don't apply.

I am still angry we lost FIA WRC on speed for this nascar bullcrap.

Been saying this for years...I am really tired of Nascar...I have driven one and they are fun but watching them race is not that satisfying.

[dazed_driver]

Originally Posted by EricJ@AMS

How much of those Fiestas are actually a Fiesta? The car is a fwd na platform, yet the rally variant is a turbocharged awd longitudinal engine layout. Is it really fair for production based awd cars to compete against a totally custom engineered car? I wish they still required homologated street versions of the car with the same drivetrain layout to be produced.

Do you realize that back when Mitsubishi and Subaru were still running the WRC, they were the only ones with a production AWD car? Besides, US rally doesn't require homolgations. The only time they DID was when they still had a Group N class. Most of the FIA rally cars (the only ones that get homologated) start out completly different from the WRC or rally cross varient. Epecially the rally cross cars.

[03_Lancer_ES]

Originally Posted by xspsi4

I agree totally^^
I think the evo's are way front heavy and actually needed some weight in the rear to make the landing more smooth but if you noticed Brack would hit his brakes to scrub some speed before the jump so I think the balls out wot approach is not the best, I will have to talk to Adam who is the crewchief for both teams of the evo's and get a good amount of feedback from him as to how it was there.

I could be wrong, but I saw a special ACP did on rally driving techniques and he talked about how they hit the brakes as they approach a jump to compress the suspension so as to get a better 'launch' off the jump?

[Makkinen II]

The jump is irrelevant. It isn't a jump similar to anything they would face in an actual rally, so how the car behaves on it is not really worth caring about as a judgement of how the car will behave on stage.

Brack was definately driving as a track racer, which worked for him since the course was mostly tarmac. Also the power advantage the Fords had helped except against foust.

This is the kind of jump you see at a rally, not something where you are landed at basically the same hieght you took off from

DSM+Flies+at+Black+River+Stages

[SWOLN]

Originally Posted by TTP Engineering

I am still angry we lost FIA WRC on speed for this nascar bullcrap.

WRC is back in October, on Discovery HD...

[Billy@EnglishRacing]

The drivers really needed co-drivers, everyone seems lost with out one.

[TTP Engineering]

What I didn't understand is that when they crashed, why didn't they keep on going?

Seems like all the winners just won by default.