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hey, i just installed 2.16 and it started up. didn't need to install previous version. will try it on my car tomorrow. i was just frustrated because if it's so simple to point to the d/l links for updated versions, i don't get why the vendor couldn't do that for the past year after several requests. it felt like "hey, ignore the noob, he'll eventually figure it out, if it takes him a year" kind of attitude. oh well, no biggie, at least this thread has the links on the first page. thanks a lot for getting back to me though, no one in the other Evoscan thread gave a ****.