Lancer Rear Brakes... Options?

Live4Redline · Mar 19, 2009, 05:35 PM

Lancer Rear Brake Conversions...?

There's gota be more options then "not needing" them or the expensive $932 RPW set.

Ya i know its not an EVO but that doesn't mean you give up on the poor car.

"Living with drum brakes is like living with a butterfly tattoo on your forehead, ya its allot of trouble to get it removed but at least you won't look like a little sissy girl every where you go."

What you guys think? Is there a cheap junk yard conversion out there to be found or is it just hopeless?

OZ Rally · Mar 19, 2009, 05:37 PM

Agreed!

You can do the Ralliart 5-lug conversion for both front and rear.

ambystom01 · Mar 19, 2009, 05:45 PM

Uh....drums aren't that big of a deal and don't "hurt" braking, at least not the degree your comment makes it appear. Most of your braking is done by the front, the rears handle a reduced percentage (say 40%) and are more than capable in stock form. They're not that ugly or obvious unless you paint them bright pink. Anyways, as said, you can use the Ralliart brakes or the Eclipse brakes but it requires you to convert to a 5-lug pattern. Alternatively you can piece together a kit using various sources like the Mirage guys do. The problem is the parts aren't easy to find.

link62 · Mar 19, 2009, 06:02 PM

i believe senate6268 had a list of everything for the conversion
heres the link Something new this way comes...

Front:

MR519923 5-lug hub assembly (x2)
MR955063 LH caliper
MR955064 RH caliper
MR510966 Ralliart rotor (x2)

Rear:

MR527453 5-lug hub assembly (x2)
MB928716 Ralliart rotor (x2)
MB407635 Wheel hub plug
MR569389 LH backing plate
MR569384 RH backing plate
MB520471 Pin, brake hold (x4)
MR391631 Rear shoe set
MB520465 Spring (x2)
MB858935 Strut, rear brake
MB858934 Strut, rear brake
MB520459 Adjuster, rear brake shoe (x2)
MB857302 Cup, rear brake shoe (x4)
MB520470 Spring, rear brake shoe (x4)
MB928874 Spring (x2)
MB857299 Spring (x2)
MB857298 Spring (x2)
MB520472 Plate, rear brake shoe (x2)
MR129877 Lever
MR129878 Lever
MR955065 LH caliper
MR955066 RH caliper
MR249200 Rear caliper bolt (x4)
MN102171 LH parking brake cable
MN102172 RH parking brake cable

"That's about it. I have brake rotors included in the list, but most people will probably opt to go aftermarket drilled or slotted. Same on brake pads. Also, don't go to Mitsu with this list and make an order. You will be killed on price. This is probably $2000 in parts. Be resourceful. If you have difficulty sourcing parts on this list then you probably shouldn't be performing the swap to begin with".

Live4Redline · Mar 19, 2009, 06:14 PM

Thanks guys...

Does anyone know if ether of the rear hubs are big enough to be drilled out to 4 lug? On the mirages it was on option if you used the expo rear hubs.

Just trying to weight my options...

4g94T · Mar 19, 2009, 10:26 PM

just paint them black.

anyways, the rear brake conversion from RPW is actually $639 in USD.
The price listed is in AUD.

Dr Crash · Mar 20, 2009, 01:55 PM

the Nissan Snetra SE-R has rear disks with 4x114.3 bolt pattern. I would suggest looking there first.

Juan Martinez · Mar 20, 2009, 06:59 PM

You can do it cheaper. Get a set of rear 5lug bearings, or redrill a ralliart rear rotor to 4 lug, get the rear backing plate off ralliart, get the e brake parts, which I found a set of rear e brakes off an evo that might work for 20, e brake cables, calipers ( same as on rear of eclipse if you want to go cheap or go brembo) pads.

OZ Rally · Mar 20, 2009, 07:11 PM

I say it's better to get it done right the first time.

Juan Martinez · Mar 20, 2009, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4g94T

just paint them black.

anyways, the rear brake conversion from RPW is actually $639 in USD.
The price listed is in AUD.

Thats not that bad, but after it goes through a distibutor, and shipping, its more like 1000.

Backing plates are 100 for both.
Bearings are 100 each, thats 200 for both
Calipers, 100 for a set, 300 for brembo
E brakes off evo, I got for 20 plus 10 or so shipping
Rotors 60 to 200, depends on how performancey you want
Pads 40 to 60
Brake lines 100 for all 4 wheels
E brake cables 20 each

You could do it for around 450 if you have rotors redrilled to 4lug, it will cost around 700 if you get 5lug, 1000 if you go rear brembo calipers. I would rather source everything out myself.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2005-Mitsubish...3A1|240%3A1318

If you could get both sides cheap from the uk with good shipping, that would help quite a bit.

Dr Crash · Mar 21, 2009, 04:41 PM

By "backing plates" I assume you mean caliper carriers? The backing plate is a piece of thin metal behind the rotor, which should cost no more than $20 used, the caliper carrier is the large piece of thick metal that the calipers bolt to. I got a kit from RPW, but they sent me the wrong carriers. I'm STILL trying to find carriers that are decently priced and will fit right. Not any wrecked Ralliarts at the auto wreckers for me to grab some and try them either.

senate6268 · Mar 22, 2009, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Crash

By "backing plates" I assume you mean caliper carriers? The backing plate is a piece of thin metal behind the rotor, which should cost no more than $20 used, the caliper carrier is the large piece of thick metal that the calipers bolt to. I got a kit from RPW, but they sent me the wrong carriers. I'm STILL trying to find carriers that are decently priced and will fit right. Not any wrecked Ralliarts at the auto wreckers for me to grab some and try them either.

The rear calipers on the Ralliart bolt right to the backing plate. There is no separate bracket for the calipers. The backing plates for the Ralliart are very thick and very heavy. See the attached diagram.

Dr Crash · Mar 23, 2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senate6268

The rear calipers on the Ralliart bolt right to the backing plate. There is no separate bracket for the calipers. The backing plates for the Ralliart are very thick and very heavy. See the attached diagram.

maybe wrong link? that is a drum brake

interesting if the calipers bolt directly to te backing plate, wish a friend of mine had one so i could take a look :P

Juan Martinez · Mar 24, 2009, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Crash

By "backing plates" I assume you mean caliper carriers? The backing plate is a piece of thin metal behind the rotor, which should cost no more than $20 used, the caliper carrier is the large piece of thick metal that the calipers bolt to. I got a kit from RPW, but they sent me the wrong carriers. I'm STILL trying to find carriers that are decently priced and will fit right. Not any wrecked Ralliarts at the auto wreckers for me to grab some and try them either.

Yes, the thin, metal things they bolt to. You might be able to use the backing plates off of the eclipse. It looks like its the same and it does use the same calipers. I have been researching this, I know the evo calipers bolt right up to it also and that the e brake might be the same. I just don't know about e brake cables. Look for the how to on the 2g rear disk brake swap.

senate6268 · Mar 24, 2009, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Crash

maybe wrong link? that is a drum brake

interesting if the calipers bolt directly to te backing plate, wish a friend of mine had one so i could take a look :P

Nope. That is the rear disc setup of a Ralliart. Those are the e-brake shoes. If you look at the diagram you can see the caliper bolted right onto the backing plate.