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Mar 24, 2009, 10:01 PM
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Registering the PKU-MIT
Really can the lancer without the F.A.S.T. Key register this module just by holding it by the ignition coil? The instructions say just hold the module by the barrel and turn two keys a couple of times and its done. How does the device program if there is absolutely no power to the device. Please help I am so confused!!!
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Mar 28, 2009, 09:39 PM
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There is a chip inside the box that learns the RF frequency...it doesn't need power when it's that close. It's the same thing as learning new keys to the car. What you are doing when you are turning the two keys is putting the car into programming mode which makes it able to program new keys or , as in your case, a module.
To put it in easier terms....the box that you are learning is exactly like a key which also has no "power" to it.
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Mar 28, 2009, 10:18 PM
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here is the instructions!
Red 12 (+) Volts Constant COIL Brown (-) Negative Ground Output When Running R M TE E O
T R S A TER NOTE: 3 OR 5 TURNS OF LOOP IS REQUIRED LOCATE THE COIL AROUND THE IGNITION KEY PKU MODULE PROGRAMMING MODE You will need 2 valid keys. Proceed as follows: 1- Insert first key and turn to the IGN “ON” position for 5 seconds.
Remove the first key.
2- Insert second key: turn to the IGN “ON” position for 10 seconds.
Remove the second key.
3- For the next 2 steps position & hold the PKU module (screw side) towards the front
of the ignition barrel (key cylinder). (Coil Loop is NOT USED during PK programming)
4- Using a jumper wire, power up vehicle ignition, without starting vehicle. After approx. 7 secs,
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i know my 04 sti was govern at 149, and I thought that evo is the same thing??
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The X feels very heavy - although it certainly handles very well
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Mar 29, 2009, 09:17 AM
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thanks for your replies!!!! the instructions posted above I have those same instructions in the package that arrived with the module... it says that I need to place a jumper on the ignition switch to power it up without powering the engine... where does this jump need to be made in the steering column? Also the tech says that I am missing a plug or a harness that did not come with the module... I am thinking this is the relay... I am not completely sure about this....
The tech just called me and said he order the universal bypass for me, and that I would be forced to give up a key... .the plus side he says he wont charge me to install it... BUT I just bought that key, and I would appreciate it if I didn't have to give it up.
I understand how the system works now, I called the dealership and they gave me the wiring diagram of the ignition system, and I see a place in the system where there is a on and off switch.... is this where I jump at? (hopefully will luck out and have someone who has actually installed this system post here!!)
one more thing, this relay how much is it? and where will I need to get it??? Thanks a ton!!!1 I think its called the SDPT relay
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Mar 29, 2009, 09:29 AM
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I just powered the ignition using the key to the "ON" position if I recall. these are the new pku-mit's and you don't need a key. if after doing step 4 and noticing the "THEFT" light to turn on, flash and solid on, you are good to go. you don't need a relay.
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Originally Posted by oldscholevo
i know my 04 sti was govern at 149, and I thought that evo is the same thing??
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I will say this
This car (evo X) will need 400 whp to beat a Evo IX with 260 whp
The X feels very heavy - although it certainly handles very well
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Mar 29, 2009, 10:08 AM
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BTW, cut a copy of your oem key at walmart and just get the metal key without transponder chip. use that to turn the ignition "ON".
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Originally Posted by oldscholevo
i know my 04 sti was govern at 149, and I thought that evo is the same thing??
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I will say this
This car (evo X) will need 400 whp to beat a Evo IX with 260 whp
The X feels very heavy - although it certainly handles very well
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Mar 31, 2009, 09:11 AM
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okay so my next question would be this. On the Viper 5901 there is the remote start wire harness. it has 5 wires
Blue RS Status (-) 200 mA output
Pink RS ignition1 (-) 200 mA output
Violet RS starter (-) 200 mA output
Orange RS accessory (-) 200 mA output
Pink/White flex (-) 200 mA output (default setting is ignition 2)
The brown wire on the pku says to connect to a Negative ground out output when running..
I am assuming this means the violet wire on the Viper 5901 yes?? And what wires would I tap into under the steering column with this harness?
Please correct me if I am wrong
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Mar 31, 2009, 09:20 AM
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and what is a keysense wire, and do I have one, if I do not have the FAST key
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Mar 31, 2009, 07:36 PM
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Okay, well apparantly I do not know what I am doing with this. I bought a key from walmart had it cut so I would not have to use a jumper cable.
I cycled through the steps in the manual to program another key to the immobilzer. Taking one valid key putting it in the ignition and turning to on for 5 seconds. Removing that key and putting in the second valid key leaving in the ignition til the immobilizer logo comes on the display. I remove the second key and put in my walmart key, which is all metal, no chip. The screen has blinked constantly even with all the keys out up to this point. As soon as the key is inserted, and I hold the module next to the ignition the display go outs.
At one point the display came back on, and stayed displayed. I went to the extremem of having the column off and holding directly on the black box, and on the ignition barrel inside of the sterring column. Nothing no results.
Either my pku-mit3 is a POS or we are all wishing for hopes and dreams, just by holding a device with no power source beside a transmission device hoping it will learn something. I am at a loss, and completely disappointed in this damn alarm. My siren was left off, and I practically have to kick the car to set off the alarm.
I found where they mounted the brain, it is not mounted, its suspended on a bunch of wires under the dash where it can sway with the cars movements, and not pick up and shock.
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Mar 31, 2009, 09:11 PM
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follow post #5. you don't need to power the pkumit to program it. but to hook it up, it has a wiring diagram that is included in the kit.
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Originally Posted by oldscholevo
i know my 04 sti was govern at 149, and I thought that evo is the same thing??
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DynoFlash
I will say this
This car (evo X) will need 400 whp to beat a Evo IX with 260 whp
The X feels very heavy - although it certainly handles very well
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Apr 1, 2009, 06:55 AM
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so I am assuming that when the display came on solid when it did, the lancer took the module?? it only did it once, so I guess once a key is programed you can "reprogram it" over again, unless it is cleared out. right?
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Apr 1, 2009, 06:58 AM
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and pardon my persistance, but this tech says I do need a relay. http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...asp~TID~108826 What does the relay do and what is it for?
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Apr 5, 2009, 10:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevaeh
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You don't need a relay to program your module...the relay is needed when doing the remote start. It's needed to simulate a key by "opening" the keysense wire. It's kind of a complicated car to work on unless you're very knowlegable with doing remote start systems. The majority of the car is simple but the F.A.S.T key system is a SOB to figure out.
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