E-Manage Ultimate

[Insidious Evo]

I did a search but found nothing. Does anyone have any experience with this new unit? I read about this and it looked like it was able to eliminate the Mass Air flow sensor and go speed density. I have seen all those U-tec boys messing around with that maftpro unit, but I think Greddy might know alittle more about tunning. So I called Greddy and the said that it was true, but only on certain cars. They said they were currently working on making it work in the Evo!

Here is what Greddy's website had to say about it.



"The GReddy e-manage Ultimate was engineered to preserve the best features of the original e-manage (an economical price, the use of existing sensors, the ability to easily alter stock settings, & the vast compatibility for most Japanese performance vehicles), while advancing new innovations in piggyback engine control management. Although the external physical dimensions are the same, the Black-Chrome Ultimate has an increased number of input and output ports along with new built-in adapters, to add a number of new options.

In addition to standard e-manage airflow-based adjustments, the Ultimate version includes new and upgraded features. Included is a PC-based Ultimate Support Tool software CD, with an easy-to-use Parameter Set-up, tab menu format and speedy USB communication. Ultimate has improved direct Map control for adding and subtracting Fuel and Ignition. The ability to switch between 2 preset tuning Maps (i.e. Street or Race program) via externally mounted toggle switches. There are Maps for Individual cylinder adjustment for both Fuel and Ignition. There are also options to convert injection and ignition systems (i.e. group or sequential injection and group or individual fire ignition.) An Airflow Output Map option even allows for airflow meter elimination. And when used with a wideband A/F Meter, the Air Fuel Target Map can self-tune an Injector base tuning Map, to speed up initial tuning. There are also built-in Boost, Rev and Speed Limiter-Cut features. To create super smooth operation, there are various fine tuning Correction Maps to adjust for Throttle Acceleration, Vehicle Speed, Water Temp, Intake Temp, Auto Trans Shift, Anti Engine Stall, and Idle. To further aid in tuning, e-manage Ultimate's improved integrated Monitoring, Map Tracing and Datalogging features far exceed any other piggyback controller on the market. Even when not connected to the software, 8 channels of datalogging (at 20msec intervals) can be recorded and stored to be reviewed later. With the Support Tool connected, over 30 channels can be covered. Other new features include: Improved RPM recognition, Warning Settings, Password Protection for individual tuning Maps, NVCS (Nissan), VTEC (Honda), O2 Feed-back, Clean Fouled Plugs, and numerous others in future updates.

Ideal for optimizing and fine-tuning for performance products like Exhaust, Air Intake, Intercoolers, Boost Controllers, and Turbochargers, the e-manage Ultimate fills the gaps between conventional piggyback and expensive stand-alone engine managements. "



It looks like a cheap and realiable solution to go MAP.

- Erik

[phenem]

This would be great to know because I am about a week away from purchasing my Ultimate. There are a lot of benefits that it has over other p-n-p EM.

This would be great if everything worked out on the EVO. I am ordering everything the main harness to control the injectors down to the MAP sensor to get rid of my MAF sensor.

I will keep this thread updated with information as I find out anything.

[Randy]

I have seen it at work in a TT 350z and it is frieking amazing, flowmeter deleted, tuning using the Greddy Pressure sensor simply amazing.

Wondering how I can upgrade my blue to an ultimate. Will keep reading.

[phenem]

I talked to Greddy and the guy didn't no jack! He said they have not got it working 100% on an USDM EVO yet. They have the right injector "harness" and coil pack "harness" but they don't know which of the two types of harness's to use. Whatever that means.

He also said that they are in contact with Japan to find out how they got it to work on their EVO. And that it should be figured out in the next couple months.

If this is figured out I am definetly getting my hands on it. It is as close to a standalone EMS that you can get without sacrificing standard emissions and daily drivability.

To me the "ultimate" (hence the sarcasim) ticket to having a street/strip car.

[Insidious Evo]

bump for more info

[BoostAddicted]

Originally Posted by Insidious Evo

bump for more info

anyone have any more info yet?

[yeeha]

i have a unit for sale including ultimate harness $650. pm me if interested...

[Insidious Evo]

Originally Posted by yeeha

i have a unit for sale including ultimate harness $650. pm me if interested...

are you able to delete the maf?

[HPF Michael]

You can't delete the MAF. Here is the description I have on my website.

We sell these for $544.00, If you have any questions feel free to contact me (PM or EMAIL).

Thanks,

Michael

Finally a product to truly replace the HKS VPC for aftermarket upgraded Vehicles! Since the demise of the VPC from HKS, there has been a huge void to fill to meet the demands of modified car owners looking to a simpler approach to adding big injectors and turbo(s). Many simply do not want to change the factory ECU and move to a standalone. This is a solid solution for those from a world leader in electronics for imports, GReddy.

Greddy Performance Products introduces their newest piggyback engine management system, the e-Manage Ultimate! The Greddy e-Manage Ultimate does what no other piggyback ECU can. Engineered to preserve the best features of the original e-Manage (economical price, no need for tuning from scratch, & compatible for most Japanese performance vehicles).

Some of the new features include:

The ability to both Add and Subtract on fuel and ignition maps A toggle switch to shift between two sets of tuning maps (i.e. Street program or Race program) Air/Fuel Target Map for self-tuning to speeding up initial tuning time Increased number of input and output ports and numberous built in adapters Various Correction Maps (for Acceleration, Speed, Temperature, Ignition, & A/T Trans) Fouled Spark-Plug Cleaning Feature Auxiliary Output Maps A new extensive multi-channel datalogging system with map tracing for easy tuning Includes the software Support Tool CD Use of a speedy standard USB cable for tuning, monitoring, and datalogging Ideal for optimizing and fine-tuning for performance products like exhaust, air intake, intercoolers, boost controllers and turbo upgrades, the e-Manage Ultimate and do it better than any other system on the market today.

[gunzo]

Originally Posted by HPF Michael

You can't delete the MAF. Here is the description I have on my website.

We sell these for $544.00, If you have any questions feel free to contact me (PM or EMAIL).

Thanks,

Michael

hi.. yes you can.. but you need the greddy map sensor and you need to manually map each point into the map loadpoints

ie you gotta tell the EMU what equivalent maf is at that particular map point.. not easy but can be done

on top of that you need 2 adaptors in order for the direct injector control to work and ignition control..

theres still some minor issues but it seems to be working ok now

[Insidious Evo]

Is greddy going to come out with a base map for evos?

[gunzo]

Originally Posted by Insidious Evo

Is greddy going to come out with a base map for evos?

There's no base maps for any cars ..

Emanage is an interceptor .. so if 0 values are inside .. it runs the stock ECU values ..

[feldguy]

Any updates on speed density conversions for the Ultimate E-Manage?

[phenem]

I am very interested in switching over to this piggyback and would like to see if anyone has information they would like to share with their experiences with it. Anyone??

~Zach

[spoolint78]

Haven't had luck with it for the supra community as well.
No one has been able to move the rev limiter yet.

Still loads of bugs to figure out