Future suggestions for the EVO XI

[3000ways]

Let's face it, you either love or hate the EVO X. I love it, but think Mitsubishi could have did a little more in improving the X over the EVO IX. So this is my attempt to offer some suggestions for the future EVO XI. We got about two or three years with the EVO X and then it will be time for the EVO XI and if Mitsubishi even still sells the EVO in the United States (which I firmly believe will be true, but I cannot see into the future) then here are some things I like to see on the EVO XI-

#1- I would like for Mitsubishi to do away with the 5-speed manual and a 6-Speed manual should be come standard. I think the SST is a sweet idea (even though i have some concerns about its tuning potential) and would like it to remain. But a 5-Speed in 2010 or 2011 is just ancient, and a 6-speed manual should be standard.

#2- I would like to see a bigger engine in the EVO XI. No Mitsubishi, that doesn't mean turn it into a f*cken NA 6-Cylinder like they did with the Eclipse, but a 2.4L to 2.6L would do wonders for low end power and torque. I know EVO purist may have a problem with the EVO XI going away from the 2.0L, but in all honesty Mitsubishi has already taken steps into different directions with the EVO X, so honestly what is one more step as long as the EVO XI performs awesome in which I believe it would with a bigger engine.

#3- Even more power and a bigger turbo. I believe a new and improved 16G turbo with a bigger engine would mean a pretty big power gain. I think around a 330hp rating would be very nice and would attract many new buyers and win back some buyers who may have jumped off the boat with the release of the EVO X. Do I expect a price hike with the new power, new turbo , and bigger engine, yes, but I don't think it would be too much. Honestly the EVO XI GSR would probably base at around $36,000 or a little more, but then again with 330hp and better drive ability would make it much worth it.

#4- Last thing, is something I wish Mitsubishi would have done for a long time. I wish the MR better differentiated itself from the GSR and RS models. I mean I wish the MR was to the EVO line up what the M-Series is to the BMW line up. I would love to see the MR have even more power, I think with the bigger engine and a 20G turbo it would be awesome. I would love to see the EVO XI MR become a true M3 killer. With atleast 430hp and more aggresive styling and price tag around $50,000 the MR would add more excitement to the entire EVO XI line up.

#5- Ok this is the last thing, I am ok with the EVO X gaining weight from the EVO IX. It is brand new chassis and these things happend, but I will find any dramatic weight gains from the EVO X to the EVO XI completely unacceptable. Seriously I know Mitsubishi engineers make the equivelent of 6 figure incomes in Japan and with the money they are paid these muthaf*ckers better find ways to keep the weight down.

So what would you suggest? You never know, maybe Mitsubishi employees read this and your ideas become part of the EVO XI.

[bboypuertoroc]

I'll play...

I hate the side view of the X, mainly due to how the front bumper comes in towards the car at the bottom. it needs to just drop straight down.

I completely agree with more power/displacement. I mean ****, Mitsubishi makes the 20G, why not use it? Suby is using 2.5 in everything stateside now, why not us?

I only agree with a 6 speed if it can take the abuse the 5 speed has. Then again, I'm sure Shep/Buschur/TRE will start building them if they become the norm, so it shouldn't be too bad.

I know the car is a "rally car" (well, not as much as before), but I'd like to see a lower ride height stock

Nice weight drop.

[lucky4586]

the WRC says that they cant have an engine bigger then 2.0L thats why the JDM suby have the 2.0L so as long as they have 2.0 still in the JDM world or have it on a evo that is more like the WRX with a price tag around 25k. I WANT LOW END TQ so YES to a 2.3-2.6L four and a bigger turbo to go with it and if the turbo had TI internals would be great! That is one of the first things im doing to my evo once I finish paying it off.. that is a stroker 2.3. I want the RS to be cheaper then it is now to play with the wrx more but I know the performance isnt even on the same level so it would really bring more people to the evo.

[DJ Brett B]

From what I have read there will be production 2.4 L versions of the 4B11 going into other makes since mitsubishi isnt the only company using that motor- The Evo of course gets a 2.0 because the Rally rules limit it to 2.0, yes, but there will be higher displacement versions going into other production cars-I cant remember details but do a search here and you will see what I'm talking about... anyways it would be easy to source a 2.4L block from a wrecked Dodge (or whatever else that block will be going into) stroke and sleeve that block to a 2.6L (given it will take a little time to make internals for this application), then bolt on a GT35R or GT37R turbo kit designed for an EVO X (again, as soon as they make them) and there you go!!!! HUGE Power, way less spool time compared to even a 2.3L stroker on a 4G63 Evo IX.... The unknowns are: will this new motor be able to withstand 600+whp with its open deck design? how much power will the new tranny be able to withstand?
There is hope for the new X if it really can put down that kind of power, because to build up a 2.4L block into something bigger should be a realistic option... and 2.6L with a 37R would be F*%#ing SICK!!!!!
It might also be possible to build that same motor setup and pop it into an EVO VIII or IX... we will have to see down the road what this new motor and tranny can really handle!!!

[W0459732]

i agree with u a lot 3000 ways

[jenx1976]

Not so much in style but more on how they do business....
1. I want mitsubishi to start making group A versions of the evo XI., same way they had with the VI .,
2. They should offer variations like the UK FQ series. This would help us all with moding VS warranty. (probly the reason why they dont do it.)

also they should make this into prduction...
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/...e_ralliart.asp

[calilancer02]

if You wanna go fast you don't get an MR tho. 5spd > 6spd anyday brother.

[redstar56785]

The Evo XI does need to get a bigger engine option first off. Another thing I would like to see on it is a little less weight. This model is overly flashy for the chassis so I would expect the XI to drop a good 300 lbs of weight. And honestly I want more variations so the warranty doesnt drop off when I buy one. Waiting on the XI for the refinement of the second version of this engine and chassis.

[3000ways]

Originally Posted by calilancer02

if You wanna go fast you don't get an MR tho. 5spd > 6spd anyday brother.

It depends on what you are talking about. 1/4 mile acceleration, then yes the 5-spd is a better choice, but road course racing then I believe the 6-spd is superior. You see that is where I get a little confused by the forum community here. As you all know I am a big 1/4 mile supporter here, and for years I had to fight off so many 1/4 mile haters who would say "The EVO is not meant for drag racing or straight line acceleration or etc." Now the EVO X comes out and what seems obvious to me geared more toward handling and road course racing and now all of a sudden it is slow and has lost its heritage You see a lot of people on these forums have been very hypocritical in my opinion. With that said, a 5-spd when all the competition is offering 6-spds and better is just idiotic in my opinion especially for 2010 or 2011. I believe is very possible for a 6-spd to work for both drag racing and road course, its just a matter of gearing. Also the MR isn't slow by any imagination, yes it does require an extra shift once you start slapping on mods and are tapping atleast 110mph or higher, but that still doesn't make the MR slow. There are plenty of MRs running extremely quick times. But like I said earlier, a good drag racing 6-spd manual is very possible.

[3000ways]

Originally Posted by redstar56785

The Evo XI does need to get a bigger engine option first off. Another thing I would like to see on it is a little less weight. This model is overly flashy for the chassis so I would expect the XI to drop a good 300 lbs of weight. And honestly I want more variations so the warranty doesnt drop off when I buy one. Waiting on the XI for the refinement of the second version of this engine and chassis.

No a EVO doesn't need a bigger engine, nor does a Corvette need 600hp. But you know what a bigger engine in my opinion would just make the EVO a better car and that is all that I am looking for. There are other options of course, a 2.0L and more revs would be awesome too, but the direction I see Mitsubishi taking seems more like a bigger engine would be a better choice. Also 300Lb weight loss, um what are you smoking and can I have some too. Just not gonna happend, maybe for a RS, but for the GSR and MR, sorry, this is what happend to 99% of cars, they get heavier, ask the M3, the M5, the Cobra about that. Sh*t even look at the history of the EVO, you drive a VIII right? A EVO IV owner probably thinks your car is a fat a**. But I still do not see why the EVO XI should gain a tremendous amount of more weight from the EVO X. It should weigh about the same and gain more power.

[Kami]

I would love to just see light weight. I think 3000 lb. max. With AWD and all of the other amazing traction aids that the evo has, 300 hp would be perfect (not to say that more wouldn't be better) I would just really like to see a light weight car. Everything has been getting bigger and heavier. To me that's the completely wrong direction.

[deepee1]

#4 is what really grabs my attention. Imagine if Mitsu. go balls out and decide that the MR trim is an M killer. Oh my god. I would jump on that in a heartbeat!!!

[sblvro]

I want to be a purist and keep the 2.0 L engine; the Evo IX was already a M3 killer; UK variants were already a "current" RS4 and 911 4S killer; make it a 2.4 or a 2.5 L and name it a lancer fortis or a galant fortis-but not an evo!

[deepee1]

You're right sblvro - after 2 or 3k nothing can touch the Evo performance wise. What I was thinking was more along the lines of interior and creature comforts. Would be nice if an Evo could be considered among the Audi RS series, BMW M series.
Luxuries like heated/cooled seats, heated mirrors, auto-dimming mirrors, dual-climate control, electro-mag adjustable suspension. The sort of things that, generally, the raw performance minded evo community doesn't care too much about.
At the moment I have no trouble putting up with the boy-racer image/stigma of the Evo - because the car is just too damn good to get rid of and could never even think of anything that would substitute the fun factor. However, it would be my dream come true if the Evolution MR was that kind of beast.

[988evors]

I hate the weight issues as much as anyone but the sad truth is that cars as a whole are getting heavier. Crash test ratings are the damnation of lighter cars.