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EVO VIII 03-05
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STi 04-05
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Mazdaspeed3
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Aug 13, 2009, 07:34 PM
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EVO VIII vs STi vs Mazdaspeed3
A friend of mine might be selling his truck. It is a Toyota Xrunner with all the bolt ons you could think of. He is seriously considering a Mazdaspeed3 but I would like the opinions of EVOM as biased as they may be. His budgets is around $17,000.00
My opinion:
He lives in a state where it rains, and snows a lot. Between May and July all it did was rain. FWD is just not practical considering how much it precipitates but I fail to even see the comparison between the three cars... The MS3 has had a solid amount of cars with transmission problems, and grenading. The stock turbo/engine is pretty much maxed from the factory and the stock internals aren't so hot. The TMIC IMO is just plain stupid, why? an enclosed hood with a TMIC... hmm. Here are the performance specs of the 3 cars
EVO VIII:
0-60 MPH: 4.8
1/4 mi: 13.1
60-0 Braking: 109 ft
Skid Pad: 0.97g
Slalom: 71.7 mph
STi:
0-60 MPH: 4.7
1/4 mi: 13.1
60-0 Braking: 114 ft
Skid Pad: 0.92g
Slalom: 69.8 mph
MS3:
0-60 MPH: 5.8
1/4 mi: 14.4
60-0 Braking: 116 ft
Skid Pad: 0.87g (same as a stock 2005 SRT-4)
Slalom: 67.0 mph
-He is under the impression that the EVO and STi are very expensive to maintain, he mentioned "the clutch and the labor that goes in it and how expensive it is"
-He said finding an EVO for $17,000 or so with lower mileage was RARE and then I found 4 solid examples with under 50,000 miles
-He refuses to test drive the EVO and STi. He has yet to ever even drive one of the two, but he has driven the MS3
-He insists that the 2008+ MS3 won't have transmission or engine problems, but Mazda has proven time and time again to either ignore, or NOT be able to fix the woes of cars previous production years.
I personally think he is batty for even considering the Mazdaspeed3, the only reason to justify it IMO over an EVO or STi is that it would be newer, for a similar price. But newer to me doesn't mean much to me in regards to what car is best... it just means, well... newer. The performance advantage the EVO and STi have over the MS3 are so significant I don't even think the MS3 should be in the equation. Things would be different if EVO's and STi's where still $30,000 but they are dirt cheap now and he doesn't want to buy brand new. What do you all think?
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Last edited by 11Past9; Aug 13, 2009 at 07:39 PM.
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Aug 13, 2009, 07:41 PM
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I would definitely pick the evo over all then the sti then a srt 4 then a honda than a mazda speed lol so pretty much what im saying is the mazda speeds are ugly too me and would never have one 
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Aug 13, 2009, 07:46 PM
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which answer do u think will get the most votes.....take a guess
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Aug 13, 2009, 07:47 PM
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Evo > STI > MS3
Simple.
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Aug 13, 2009, 08:00 PM
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I think the choice is really between the Evo/STI. I personally love the STi's of that year and almost bought one. The differences between the two have been noted for years so i wont get into that...to each his own with those two cars. The speed3 reminds me a ton of my old SRT-4...the car is more peppy than fast and annoyingly hard to modify with good results. My vote goes:
1-1a)Evo/STi = Draw (i chose my silver IX MR over a white STi so im bias  )
3) MazdaSpeed3 ...too hard to modify with good results and lack of time with people tuning it. Unlike the devoted followings of the other two which have proven setups to get you where you want to go.
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Aug 13, 2009, 08:11 PM
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Sounds like your buddy has his mind made up...to make a mistake with the MS3.
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Aug 13, 2009, 08:15 PM
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haha so funny putting up this poll on evolution forum
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Aug 13, 2009, 08:16 PM
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evo or sti for the win, ms3 fail
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Aug 13, 2009, 08:16 PM
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Its not the car but the driver.
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Aug 13, 2009, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by str8kor
haha so funny putting up this poll on evolution forum
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yeah i agree i kinda thought that too lol
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Aug 13, 2009, 08:18 PM
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if hes concerned about maintence costs.... DONT GET AN EVO.
heres an idea tho... why not let your friend get the car HE wants, not the one you want him to get.
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Aug 13, 2009, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoJoeIX
if hes concerned about maintence costs.... DONT GET AN EVO.
heres an idea tho... why not let your friend get the car HE wants, not the one you want him to get.
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Everyone has to find out the hard way in life. No matter how many people try to help you out because they made the same mistake, people still continue to do it.
Good luck to your friend.
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Aug 13, 2009, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by metalsaber
Evo > STI > MS3
Simple.
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Very simple.
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Aug 13, 2009, 09:45 PM
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Mazdaspeed Axela yo!
Now go post this on mazda3forums.com and see what the results are! am curious lol!
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Aug 13, 2009, 09:56 PM
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Evo for sure....
Mazda = (FWD) Wrong Wheel Drive
Subaru = Personally not a fan...
Evo = WIN!
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