BF Goodrich g-Force Super Sport A/S vs. Hankook Ventus V12 Evo K110

[Postman1990]

The vital stats I have on these two tires is helpful, but I am looking for user advice and experience, as I have very little. I am a daily driver, but my stockers only yielded 6k miles, so I need the tread life, but I am more interested in maintaining cornering speed and stability if I do happen to drift some. The super sports have a 400AA vs the ventus v12's 280AA, but I don't know about handling. I asked Discount Tire for advice, which may have been my first wrong move, but they suggested the higher wear rated bfg would have better handling. I only know of the c&d comparison http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...mparison_tests. I have heard of good reviews of both, but no comparisons between the two. If the 300AA KDW's could not outperform and were noisy, I don't know how the A/S could improve. I know one is a summer, and one is all season, but in Texas, the snow almost never comes, although I might see showers like today. I know both performed well in wet and dry, and that it might be like apples to oranges, but I am conflicted between the two. I am looking at using stock MR rims and using 245/40, 245/45, 255/40, and 265/40. I would try 275/40, but I know it is not realistic for 8.5". I know the sizes matter, and that the A/S is 245/40 and 245/45 only, but I am looking into all options. My main focus is cornering grip and my speedo isn't important, as I can memorize the change. It is already off by 2mph @40mph (reads 42) so w/e size is good. Thanks in advance for your input and sorry about the length

[DannyK24]

Just go for the BFG, it'll still give you the grip but not as much as a summer tire. Does the temperature drop below 45? If so, the summer tire won't give you the maximum grip as the temperature drops.

[Postman1990]

yeah, it drops below 40 for like 3-4 months, so it seems that the bf goodrich might be the best choice. I noticed on the tire rack review, the Continental ExtremeContact DWS seems to outperform the super sport A/S in the wet, but I don't think that will sway me. I doubt ice will be an issue, but considering the first tires practically lasted 1/2 a year, it is prolly good for me to consider the time of year.

[Hikaru]

Honestly man, I don't know anyone that runs either of those tires. Tires are the most important performance mod you can do to your car. Buy some good ones. Look at the Dunlop Z1 star spec in a 255/35/18. Your speedo will be pretty dead on and those tires are the best bang for the buck you can get. Period. I run em. On my second set. They will last you over a year depending on driving style.

[Postman1990]

I would, but I just can't afford the 200AA wear rating. I know the star specs are like stock almost, but I just killed my stocks before my third oil change, and if the star specs aren't going to make 10k miles or more for me (which judging by wear raings it wouldn't) I can't really choose it. Like I said, I don't track my car, yet the stockers lasted 6k, so I guess my driving style is more flamboyant than 90% of the people in the forums, so I would only expect 6800-7000 miles out of those.

[endGameXIII]

what's your budget?

[Postman1990]

I want to stay at 180 or less per tire (preferably nearer to 160), and I need to get approx 10k out of them. Also, my family is kinda attached to discount tire (my father doesn't like change), so while they will price match, I can't get really obscure tires. I know my situation is weird, but it is what it is.

[Hikaru]

Honestly man, tread ratings are only regulated by the tire manufacturer. They really don't mean much. Like I said, I run the Dunlops and got 15K outta them. My buddy runs the RE-11s and Got 15K outta them. And he has a dedicated race car so he drives his DD Evo aggressively to say the least. I hate to put it bluntly but Evos are not cheap. Paying all that money for the car and insurance and maintenance, and then throwing crappy tires on it kinda minimizes your purchase. It's like buying a Lambo and driving like a granny cuz you wanna get 16 mpg out of it. FWIT Star Specs in stock size ar $177. or BFG KDW2 is $180 with a 300 tread rating (whatever that means). I'm just saying. Good luck with your purchase man.....I hope you find what u r looking for

[Postman1990]

just wondering for comparison, what did you get out of your stockers? I think it will give me perspective on the difference in tire life. I know the numbers are somewhat for show, but other people's experiences in terms of their tire life extension vs stock would be helpful to make sense of the tread ratings.

[verkion]

The BFG Supersport A/S were my tire of choice before I got the Goodyear F1 AllSeasons only because when I wanted them, nobody had stock. They are very reviewed tires. The fact of the matter is, if you want an All-Season tire, you are NOT looking for 100% performance, (and you're not going to get it no matter what). Its a compromise.

That said, any of the top tier A/S tires are going to give you 75-80% of the extreme performance summers, and last far longer as well as being far more drivable in the winter/mild snow. (Don't EVER drive summers in snow!!! That's just asking for trouble!) And my perhaps rather conservative stance is...if you are even pushing the limits of your A/S tires on the road, you should probably have your license taken away for a number of years until you GROW UP and stop being a danger to everyone else on the road.

I say, spend the dough on an everyday driver set of tires. You'll be able to drive on them for 50,000 Miles so you save money on rubber. Then, when you want to auto-cross/hit the track, get some tires for that too.

verkion

[Hikaru]

Well, when I bought the car it had 18K mi on it and the stockers were brand new. Obvi the owner had wheels on the car and swapped em out when he traded it in. I'd say I got a years worth of driving b4 I bought new wheels and tires. They still had tread on em too. Prolly would have gone 1.5 years or maybe 1.75 with the cords showing. I don't drive ridiculously but fairly aggressive. I drive bout 20 mi a day commuting to work. 50/50 highway-city. Not trying to convince you of anything man, I'd just hate to see you enjoy your tight 40G car less because of a couple hundred dollars (not even) on tires. The way I see it, its part of evo maintenance expense. Just like the clutch will go soon, brakes will not last long, good oil is expensive, premium gas, ect....gotta pay to play man

[Postman1990]

I should prolly point out that Plano has snow 1 day or less per approximately 2 years, so that is no issue. That is why I would consider all season with summer. Summer is 6 months, spring/fall is 4, and winter is 2 with almost no chance of snow. Also, the 1.5yrs of real tread time for you is equivalent to approximately 7800 miles conservatively (commute only), so whatever I am doing is using my tires more quickly (prolly a combination of 110 summers and some other factors). I figure the all seasons are a safe choice, but honestly, when I had my Rx-8, I used summers only and never ran into issues. Looking at the ratio of miles per tire for you, hikaru, makes the direzzas an option though, as it is like nearly double tread life, so I'm going to look more into those. As for growing up, if I had done that, I would have an s4 or something else less fun. I haven't had tickets for over a year or accidents (at all), so I think considering I drive through intersections on the top 25 list for accidents, that is pretty good.

[endGameXIII]

hm 180 or less huh...

kumho make for some good value tires. otherwise...i think bfg may be your best option.

[Postman1990]

yeah, the more I look, the more bf goodrich seems like the tire for me. I looked at nice specs for the continental dw for performance (340AA and seems to compare with the direzza and ps2), and the dws (540A better in wet, worse in dry), but in the end the dw is too expensive, barring a special, and the snow and rain of the dws is not too important for me.