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Old Mar 12, 2008, 04:30 AM   #16
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I'm 37 and have been driving stick, legally, since I was 16... I know how to 'properly' heel/toe and it just isn't comfortable for me; plus, my ankle hits the center console on this car. I've been using this technique long enough to be good enough at it that the days of hitting the gas pedal accidentally are long gone and I can brake full force just using half my foot. The pedals were too far apart for me stock and this resolved the problem. Thanks for your advice, but I'll stick with the technique that works best for me.
I know this issue has been flogged to death but I think the size of the individual is another important decision regading the technique that is feasible. Saw a drift video with a japenese driver and they had camera on the floor showing his heel toe technique. The point here is his feet were very, very small which obviously enabled him to more readily apply this method. So what technique do you think Shequille Oneill (SP?) would use with his size 15-16 shoe?
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Old Mar 12, 2008, 04:53 AM   #17
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i think these pedals give it a more clean look
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Old Mar 28, 2008, 12:47 AM   #18
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those are sweet pedals...
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Old Mar 28, 2008, 05:47 PM   #19
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Have you found any negatives to these pedals on rainy days?
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Old Mar 29, 2008, 12:14 AM   #20
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Have you found any negatives to these pedals on rainy days?

I was thinking the same thing. I installed some like this on a WRX and they were a bit slick in the wet weather. I know mine had a built in ridge around the holes which would help for sure when it was wet. And then again those ridges would mess me up on dry days

I do like that they bridge the gap between the pedals though. I do most shifts 'toe/toe' now but it's not as easy as I'd like it

And to the person who posted above who says he likes his arms fully extended (and that's the 'right way') with a racing steering wheel I say meh....I need some leverage so I prefer to be a bit closer...not NASCAR close but closer than full extension

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Old Mar 29, 2008, 12:12 PM   #21
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Have you found any negatives to these pedals on rainy days?
No, the holes are raised and have a lip (except the gas pedal which is smooth) which give your shoes something to grip on.

I got the revised dead pedal in this week and am going to install it later. I'll post pics.
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Old Mar 12, 2009, 04:50 PM   #22
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Good lookin pedals and nice writeup! Thanks for taking the time to do that. I'm gunna order myself a set of those with the "grid" style face I think.
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Old Mar 12, 2009, 05:55 PM   #23
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My brother bought a set of these SRP pedals from Speed Element, they are great!!

IF i didn't have the Ralliart Non-Slip Titanium pedals (and I love them!), these SRP's will be my other choice!!
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I don't know what you guys are talking about. "Heel/toe" downshifting does not literally mean you use your heel. Maybe on non-performance cars or older cars where this technique was not widely used and they spaced the pedals too far apart and you have no choice. Every modern sports car I've owned (except the Evo X) has had the pedals properly spaced to where an average person can easily bridge the brake and gas with the inside and outside edge of his foot.

"...'heel-and-toe" is a misnomer. It actually involves the ball of your foot and the side of your foot."
Full article here:http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/how...2/article.html

Oh, and since someone is going to say Edmunds writers are not pro drivers, watch this: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...mall_57431.htm

If you take "heel/toe" literally and use your heel on the brake, you cannot properly modulate your braking force since you are then using the less precise muscles in your thigh versus the smaller, more progressive ones in your calf and foot. Conversely, if you are using your toe on the brake and your heel to blip the gas, then you must be a contortionist, have really short legs, or be sitting wall back from the wheel, which is not possible in the X since the damn wheel doesn't telescope.

If you learned to actually use your heel and it works for you, then great...but it is not the preferred, modern technique and it much harder to pull off well.

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And to the person who posted above who says he likes his arms fully extended (and that's the 'right way') with a racing steering wheel I say meh....I need some leverage so I prefer to be a bit closer...not NASCAR close but closer than full extension
What he said is CW, but you misquoted him. With your arms fully extended, the wheel should cut your wrists. This gives you the leverage to turn the wheel without leaning forward to remove your shoulders from the bolsters

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Old Mar 13, 2009, 02:23 PM   #25
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I don't know what you guys are talking about. "Heel/toe" downshifting does not literally mean you use your heel. Maybe on non-performance cars or older cars where this technique was not widely used and they spaced the pedals too far apart and you have no choice. Every modern sports car I've owned (except the Evo X) has had the pedals properly spaced to where an average person can easily bridge the brake and gas with the inside and outside edge of his foot.

"...'heel-and-toe" is a misnomer. It actually involves the ball of your foot and the side of your foot."
Full article here:http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/how...2/article.html

Oh, and since someone is going to say Edmunds writers are not pro drivers, watch this: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...mall_57431.htm

If you take "heel/toe" literally and use your heel on the brake, you cannot properly modulate your braking force since you are then using the less precise muscles in your thigh versus the smaller, more progressive ones in your calf and foot. Conversely, if you are using your toe on the brake and your heel to blip the gas, then you must be a contortionist, have really short legs, or be sitting wall back from the wheel, which is not possible in the X since the damn wheel doesn't telescope.

If you learned to actually use your heel and it works for you, then great...but it is not the preferred, modern technique and it much harder to pull off well.



What he said is CW, but you misquoted him. With your arms fully extended, the wheel should cut your wrists. This gives you the leverage to turn the wheel without leaning forward to remove your shoulders from the bolsters
Agreed, it worked for Ayrton Senna who wasn't a shabby driver...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UARCEqmEZk4
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