4b11 internals strength
Nov 21, 2010, 05:21 PM
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and the best rods in the world will fail sometimes. again this thread is about 4B11 VS 4G63 stock internals.
Nov 21, 2010, 07:18 PM
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No, your post comparing the rods was off-topic so I find it amusing that you're trying to be a topic ****. The OP wanted a discussion of which motor was stronger as a whole and isolating a single component doesn't answer that question.
Nov 21, 2010, 07:36 PM
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your the one who first intro rods to this thread in post #10, now I'm amused, and I agree with your last sentence, which is why I posted the two part 4B11 info. Comparing 4G63 and 4B11 rods isn't off topic, their both engine internals,notice where the op asked about strengthened 4B11 internals? the rods are one of them.
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Nov 21, 2010, 10:08 PM
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From what I have seen the 4g63 could be a tad more resilient, but they are both fairly stout.
I wouldn't buy one over the other if it was up to making power on the stock block, they both a very capable of being fast.
Motor builds still cost the same after you blow the stock one up
I wouldn't buy one over the other if it was up to making power on the stock block, they both a very capable of being fast.
Motor builds still cost the same after you blow the stock one up
Nov 21, 2010, 10:15 PM
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My evaluation after seeing the last 4-5 Blown up 4b11 is this.. Its my opinion the 4b11 while it could be as strong or stronger than the 4g63 stock it does not have the same room for error with poor tuning.. all of the blown 4b11's i have seen recently were a product of a poor tune.. The 4g63 seems to handle a crap tune much better.. I havent seen very many blown 4g63 at 350-400hp in 3 years but 1 evo X after the other has rolled in blown up due to poor tuning in the last 2 months.. Most of them with cracked pistons. I havent had 1 with rods out of the block yet.. most have been poor tunes or customers who like to raise boost to whatever level they want to and hope for the best after the tune..
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Nov 22, 2010, 04:55 AM
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My evaluation after seeing the last 4-5 Blown up 4b11 is this.. Its my opinion the 4b11 while it could be as strong or stronger than the 4g63 stock it does not have the same room for error with poor tuning.. all of the blown 4b11's i have seen recently were a product of a poor tune.. The 4g63 seems to handle a crap tune much better.. I havent seen very many blown 4g63 at 350-400hp in 3 years but 1 evo X after the other has rolled in blown up due to poor tuning in the last 2 months.. Most of them with cracked pistons. I havent had 1 with rods out of the block yet.. most have been poor tunes or customers who like to raise boost to whatever level they want to and hope for the best after the tune..
Mike
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Have you found any consistent area of the tune that is bad? IE - Running lean, bad mivec, knock >x, high timing.
Nov 22, 2010, 01:32 PM
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My evaluation after seeing the last 4-5 Blown up 4b11 is this.. Its my opinion the 4b11 while it could be as strong or stronger than the 4g63 stock it does not have the same room for error with poor tuning.. all of the blown 4b11's i have seen recently were a product of a poor tune.. The 4g63 seems to handle a crap tune much better.. I havent seen very many blown 4g63 at 350-400hp in 3 years but 1 evo X after the other has rolled in blown up due to poor tuning in the last 2 months.. Most of them with cracked pistons. I havent had 1 with rods out of the block yet.. most have been poor tunes or customers who like to raise boost to whatever level they want to and hope for the best after the tune..
Mike
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Nov 23, 2010, 01:14 PM
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ylou will never see forged pistons in stock american cars because big dummies floor their cars with cold engines. i see it every day all the time. big dummies start their car and are pressing the gas so hard without it warming up. if they have forged pistons theyd have to put so much clearance to account for all these big dfummies youd have massive oil consumption. we pay the price for the dummies costing us good things again like most things in life a few dummies in this csae a lot ruin it for all.
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I'm not sure about this......... The only things that have been discovered are the fact that there are even more weak points then we thought. Rods..... cam chains...... broken pistons...... These things blow up stock.