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Old Nov 7, 2009, 04:38 PM   #1
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Best cams?

Hey guys, i'm looking at stage 1 camshafts as i'm only going to go with an FP Red turbo, looking to make 420hp as my goal. Which is the best cams out there? I was looking at Kelford 264's? Any other input you guys wanna drop would really help.
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Old Nov 7, 2009, 04:50 PM   #2
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The MX1 ones are working great for me, my Red is on the way and that's what I am using. Others have seen the mX1's work great with stock frame turbo's as well. The kelfords are good too but I wouldn't do the stage 1's, i would go 2's. Those two are the leaders for what people are using as of now.
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Old Nov 7, 2009, 04:55 PM   #3
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What is the idle like with the Cossies?
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Old Nov 7, 2009, 04:57 PM   #4
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they have a nice lope to them. You can tell the car is cammed that is for sure. I like it a lot. You could get it tuned out if you raise your idle a bit, i think mine is at 800 or so.

The car has never died on me or anything.
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Old Nov 8, 2009, 06:38 PM   #5
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I haven't heard much about them, but GSC Power-division has some that advertise 20-40 whp for stage 1 and 40-60 for stage 2. S1 can be used with stock valve train. AMS sells them.
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Old Nov 8, 2009, 08:08 PM   #6
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What are the gains on the cossies?
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What are the gains on the cossies?
Buschur racing picked up like 40whp on their dom2 setup with them. I wouldn't be able to tell you mine since I added tons of stuff at the same time.
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Old Nov 9, 2009, 11:27 AM   #8
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is the idle really that crazy? I don't want it ridiculous crazy.... Can you pm me where you got yours from?
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Old Nov 9, 2009, 11:39 AM   #9
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is the idle really that crazy? I don't want it ridiculous crazy.... Can you pm me where you got yours from?
Idle isn't crazy, I think they sound great, but you can tell they are in the for sure when the idle settles. When my car is warming up you can barely tell they are in there if at all. So if you wanted to you could just raise the idle a bit.

I don't think a PM is necessary, I got them from a vendor on here, MAPerformance
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393awhp/395awtq (MAP's dynojet)
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Old Nov 9, 2009, 03:00 PM   #10
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what power are u making now?
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Old Nov 9, 2009, 03:04 PM   #11
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what power are u making now?
My tuner and other tuner's have all agreed that E-85 and cams on the stock turbo is a bad choice because with E-85 you can already max out your turbo so the cams will help top end very little.

I am currently making 394whp on a dynojet, still on stock intercooler and stock downpipe so good gains in there.

My ported FP red will be here tomorrow and then I need to finish gathering parts for this, will probably be a while, but then that will go in. Looking for 500whp on a dynojet.
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393awhp/395awtq (MAP's dynojet)
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