Spec Clutches...

Dsm_Danny · Oct 16, 2009, 09:59 AM

Hey guys so I'm close to buying a new clutch and I wanted to know if ne of u guys had spec's stg 2+ and stg3 out there..

I'm really just looking for driveability differences between the two. I'd like to keep a "stockish" feel but will sacrifice if I have too.. Does anyone know exactly from experience the difference in feel between the two diff stages??

Edit: I have an X too lol...

Clipse3GT · Oct 16, 2009, 10:18 AM

I owned a SPEC STG.3 on a previous platform. It is daily driver, well undriveable more race than anything. Grabs very well though. However, I was not impressed and it failed shortly after 10 miles on a lightly modded car. Probably made an extra 50whp. I can't recommend a SPEC clutch, I think they have the worst customer service. Search the web on that topic as well as many reported failures of the clutch grenading or the rivets coming out. Send the extra money and get Exedy, CM, etc... might be a better alternative. That is just my opinion. I know people will defend SPEC, but that was my experience.

UT_EvoX · Oct 16, 2009, 10:57 AM

I had great luck with a SPEC Stage 3 pushing around 450 lb-ft to the wheels on another car for 11 months or so (it just wore out). Running a SPEC Stage 3+ now in my other car and it holds roughly 600 lb-ft to the wheels just fine. No reliability issues, no strange noises, engagement is great for a clutch with that kind of holding capacity.

I'll be going with a SPEC twin-plate on my Evo X once this 2nd stock clutch needs replacement. I think the Stage 2+ would be a great option for you; the Stage 3 is a bit harsh for the street.

I feel the problem largely with SPEC clutch installs is with the installation. This is not an attack on anybody, but many people buying a budget SPEC clutch are doing a budget or first-time clutch install... as such, installation mistakes and oversights are bound to be made, and SPEC gets blamed. Most failures I've heard of could easily be attributed to a poor installation.

linjy2 · Oct 16, 2009, 11:41 AM

i have a spec super twin ptrim waiting to go in on my evo x either sat or sometimes next week.

can't help u on a stage 2 or 3.

EvoX_SA · Oct 16, 2009, 11:43 AM

I have the Spec stage 2+ on my Evo and it is awesome. Have about 10 hard launches at the track on it and it still grabs and holds like a beast. I would recommend to all. But I honestly think most of the single disk clutches are about the same.

SPEC-01 · Oct 16, 2009, 11:53 AM

Danny, it's pretty clear that you can find both positive and negative reviews for any product...such is life I suppose. We do our very best to provide a superior product and customer service. That being said we offer a number of options for the EVO and I will be happy to make a recommendation if you let me know what your planned torque output will be. I personally run a stage 2+ on my daily driver and it provides very street friendly engagement while offering a great increase in torque capacity.

A Stage 3 (in an of its very design, a pucked disc) will always be more agressive in terms of engagement and thus may be perceived to be less drivable. But this stage serves it's purpose for use by those looking for quick response to pedal input and a low inertia assembly. This means that it isn't for everyone...but those that love them often can't say enough good stuff about them. This is why we provide so many different options, in hopes that we can provide something for everyone!

Clipse, If you have any questions I will be happy to assist you as well. If you had an issue with a part then it's likely that you sent the unit to us for examination. So you have an RMA# right?

Dsm_Danny · Oct 16, 2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EvoX_SA

I have the Spec stage 2+ on my Evo and it is awesome. Have about 10 hard launches at the track on it and it still grabs and holds like a beast. I would recommend to all. But I honestly think most of the single disk clutches are about the same.

hmm what do u have done to ur car??

Dsm_Danny · Oct 16, 2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SPEC-01

Danny, it's pretty clear that you can find both positive and negative reviews for any product...such is life I suppose. We do our very best to provide a superior product and customer service. That being said we offer a number of options for the EVO and I will be happy to make a recommendation if you let me know what your planned torque output will be. I personally run a stage 2+ on my daily driver and it provides very street friendly engagement while offering a great increase in torque capacity.

A Stage 3 (in an of its very design, a pucked disc) will always be more agressive in terms of engagement and thus may be perceived to be less drivable. But this stage serves it's purpose for use by those looking for quick response to pedal input and a low inertia assembly. This means that it isn't for everyone...but those that love them often can't say enough good stuff about them. This is why we provide so many different options, in hopes that we can provide something for everyone!

Clipse, If you have any questions I will be happy to assist you as well. If you had an issue with a part then it's likely that you sent the unit to us for examination. So you have an RMA# right?

Hmm, there are a lot of left and right opinions being thrown around..I'm just looking for something that can handle in the upper 400's...I can sacrifice some driveability but just dont wanna feel like im driving around in a track car if anything...

SPEC-01 · Oct 16, 2009, 12:41 PM

Considering your desire for a drivable clutch, I suggest getting something with a full faced disc design or at the very least a hybrid design (useing a full face on one side of the disc and a puck on the other) as discs of this type will be more progressive in terms of engagement. Surface area, friction coeffecient and clamp load all impact the "feel" of a clutch so picking a unit that is designed to be easily daily drivable make a huge difference.

DRAG · Oct 16, 2009, 01:58 PM

I'm going to have to strongly agree with the comment on SPEC's customer service. They have outstanding customer service. Some of you guys need to call the company and ask for help when you have an issue instead of just running online and *****ing. Parts failures are going to happen, that is a part of it.