New Deatsch Werks 800 cc injectors.

davidbuschur · Feb 3, 2009, 09:11 AM

Just got a set of the new Deatsch Werks 800 cc injectors in a few weeks ago.

I finally got around to dropping the injectors into the EVOX and I have to say I am impressed.

These are a direct drop in, the install only takes about 30 minutes (if you don't drop anything and lose it, like I did).

The RC's work very good too but they require a new fuel rail stand that is harder to install and it requires you either cutting your factory fuel injector wiring and installing new connectors or an adapter harness.

The DW 800's dropped in directly. The pricing is incredibly low too at only $399.

I have them in my car now and they are dialed in, the car is running excellent.

Here's a picture of the injectors:

Guru · Feb 3, 2009, 03:57 PM

Aren't those modified Stock injectors?

goofygrin · Feb 3, 2009, 04:42 PM

David, I know you've been on aftermarket fuel injectors for a while, but I'm wondering what your IDCs are running now? (or IPW if you prefer, I can do the math

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davidbuschur · Feb 3, 2009, 06:28 PM

I do not have IDC or IPW's, sorry. I am using a simple scan tool for tuning and it doesn't read either.

Those are not modified stock injectors. The stock injectors look much different.

SiC · Feb 3, 2009, 08:13 PM

I just ordered a set, hope they're pretty easy to dial in. Were you able to just dial it in with the supplied latency info? Or did you have to tweak it a bit?

J5isalive2 · Feb 3, 2009, 09:10 PM

Can we get a comparison pic of the stock injectors?

If i recall the stock injectors have a very long pintle and I am wondering how all these injectors that are being released compare to the stock injectors. The spray area of a stock injector must be completely different than that of these aftermarket injectors.

I would imagine the stock injectors get a better spray area, but these aftermarket injectors just release more fuel.....

I think the market needs a stock replacement the same size and length as a stock injector....

DeatschWerks · Feb 4, 2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by J5isalive2

Can we get a comparison pic of the stock injectors?

If i recall the stock injectors have a very long pintle and I am wondering how all these injectors that are being released compare to the stock injectors. The spray area of a stock injector must be completely different than that of these aftermarket injectors.

I would imagine the stock injectors get a better spray area, but these aftermarket injectors just release more fuel.....

I think the market needs a stock replacement the same size and length as a stock injector....

Our EVO X (or any of our Mitsubishi injectors) are not made from the OEM injector. We only use brand new Denso coils and housings for our EVO X injectors

We always take the properties of the OEM injector into account when developing our higher flowing performance injectors. We do our best to replicate the properties of the stock injector, coil response, fitment, spray pattern, etc. We brought in many stock EVO X injectors for data collecting before starting development.

The OEM EVO X injector does have a longer nozzle than many other types of injectors, but it is not the first injector we have tested of this kind. Keeping that specific nozzle style is not necessary to achieve the proper spray pattern. We have spoken with Bosch fuel injection division at length about this topic.

In addition, we always works with some of the best tuners in each of our applications to help us develop our products. In the case of the EVO X, we had our product evaluated by David Buschur of Buschur Racing, Chris Black of AMS, Jon Drenas of HB Speed, and Jeff Perrin of Perrin Performance.

Feel free to contact us directly with any questions

info@Deatschwerks.com or Mike@DeatschWerks.com

-Mike Deatsch

wickedchimp · Feb 4, 2009, 10:57 AM

Thanks for delivering a great product!

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Originally Posted by DeatschWerks

The OEM EVO X injector does have a longer nozzle than many other types of injectors, but it is not the first injector we have tested of this kind. Keeping that specific nozzle style is not necessary to achieve the proper spray pattern. We have spoken with Bosch fuel injection division at length about this topic.

For no other reason but my own curiosity I have to ask: What is the purpose of the longer nozzle design? Why would Mitsubishi choose that over the normal nozzle?

HB Speed · Feb 4, 2009, 11:57 AM

Deatschwerks are great injectors! I run them on my personal Evo X

JoeyM3 · Feb 4, 2009, 12:45 PM

nice, can't wait to get my set installed on the 10th by jon!

smgevo · Feb 4, 2009, 09:33 PM

How much extra fuel should we expect to expend with the larger injectors with and without a turbo upgrade? It is bad enough getting 4.6mpg at a road course and not being able to drive more than 57 minutes without filling up again

HB Speed · Feb 5, 2009, 12:32 AM

if anyone needs scaling and latency Feel free to PM us for it....

joowick · Feb 5, 2009, 07:01 AM

How are they vs RC injectors? More or less the same?

flyboytb · Feb 5, 2009, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by joowick

How are they vs RC injectors? More or less the same?

OP commented on this in the first post.

joowick · Feb 5, 2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by flyboytb

OP commented on this in the first post.

Sorry let me rephrase my question. I know he commented that the RC's were good as well, but in terms of performance is there one with a bigger advantage over the other is what I'm looking for.