evolutionm.net - Home of the Lancer Evolution
Home Features Community Marketplace Registry Garage

Go Back   evolutionm.net > Lancer Evolution X Forums > Evo X Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain
New! Use your Facebook, Google, AIM & Yahoo accounts to securely log into this site, click logo to login  

Evo X Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine builds to the best clutch and flywheel.

Welcome to EvolutionM.net!
Welcome to EvolutionM.net.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Mar 3, 2008, 04:04 PM   #256
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: (17)
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
 
Red Dragon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Saskatoon, Canada
Posts: 1,252

Drives: PB Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X MR

Are you guys going to replace the stock rubber intake pipe that is located after the MAF sensor??
I also notice that alot of intercoolers kits out there have "hump hose" to allow some engine movement and to prevent the intercooler piping from poping off. I dont see one in your pics, would you consider using one?
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 3, 2008, 04:57 PM   #257
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: (0)
 
kinloch99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 414

Drives: 2003 evo RR

I'm curious as to what you guys include in the BR350, when will this be done?
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 3, 2008, 05:21 PM   #258
Gold Sponsor
Personal Sales Rating: (44)
 
davidbuschur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,001

The first FMIC we tested was a 18x12x3.5" core. It made good power but in reality is just not large enough to support the power that the car will eventually make. Rather than offer a multitude of FMIC's like we did on the EVO 8-9's I want to make the best products the first time and that's it, one kick ass product for each part the car needs.

The new core will support 1,000 hp, while the core above would only support around 750 hp.
__________________
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com



First 4g63 in the 12's, 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's and 7's.
WORLD'S FIRST EVO8 IN THE 8'S
WORLD'S FASTEST EVO8, 172.74 MPH.
WORLD's First EVO in the 9's on pump gas.

STOCK ECU's:
BR EVO X, pump gas, 11.71@124.01 mph
Project White, E85, 10.35@138.53 mph
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 3, 2008, 05:23 PM   #259
Gold Sponsor
Personal Sales Rating: (44)
 
davidbuschur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,001

We use hump hoses in some of our kits. This one I do not feel it is needed. They add considerable expense to the kits, those hump hoses cost us about $35 each to have made.

The BR350 kit we have no finalized yet. It's easy to make 50 whp extra in the cars so it won't be hard to do. We started building the fixture for the catback exhaust today, as soon as it's built we will send it off to be bent. That will only take a few weeks. When that comes back hopefully we will have tuning software and then we will be able to offer the BR350.
__________________
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com



First 4g63 in the 12's, 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's and 7's.
WORLD'S FIRST EVO8 IN THE 8'S
WORLD'S FASTEST EVO8, 172.74 MPH.
WORLD's First EVO in the 9's on pump gas.

STOCK ECU's:
BR EVO X, pump gas, 11.71@124.01 mph
Project White, E85, 10.35@138.53 mph
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 3, 2008, 05:32 PM   #260
Silver Sponsor +1
Personal Sales Rating: (461)
 
TTP Engineering's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Central FL
Posts: 8,838

Drives: 2008 Evolution GSR SSS, 2005 Evolution MR, 2003 Evo GSR, 1995 TsiAWD, 1995 GST, 1995 Tsi 2wd, 1991 GVR4 WW, 1991 GVR4 NBM, 1993 TsiAWD, 1991 Tsi, 1995 RS N20

Send a message via AIM to TTP Engineering
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidbuschur View Post
The new core will support 1,000 hp, while the core above would only support around 750 hp.
What's wrong with you Dave?
__________________
2005 Evolution VIII MR
763whp/595tq HTA86
10.19 & 143.3mph stock ECU
Factory ECU Expert

2008 Evolution X GSR
12.0@113mph Full Wt+


In House Mustang Dyno AWD-500!
www.ttp-engineering.com


(407) 475-0010
AIM=TTPEngineering

MODIFYING THE 4G63 SINCE 1995, YES 14 YEARS!

TUNING EVO V - EVO X & 2009 RALLIART!

TTP's Myspace page!
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 3, 2008, 06:39 PM   #261
Gold Sponsor
Personal Sales Rating: (44)
 
davidbuschur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,001

Yes, eventually we will do a MAF pipe, sorry I missed that question.

TTP, what do you mean? Seriously, the cores that support 750 whp are the typical 3.5" cores you see everyone using/selling (including us, I am not pointing fingers). The problem is the intake air temps get hot as hell when you start pushing the boost hard and making a lot of horsepower.

This time around rather than offering two intercoolers I want to just offer one and get the job done best right off the bat.

We are working hard on the car and are just waiting on the end tanks to be cut for this new core. I am hoping for tomorrow......
__________________
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com



First 4g63 in the 12's, 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's and 7's.
WORLD'S FIRST EVO8 IN THE 8'S
WORLD'S FASTEST EVO8, 172.74 MPH.
WORLD's First EVO in the 9's on pump gas.

STOCK ECU's:
BR EVO X, pump gas, 11.71@124.01 mph
Project White, E85, 10.35@138.53 mph
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 3, 2008, 07:03 PM   #262
Silver Vendor
2004 EvoM Shootout Champion
Personal Sales Rating: (24)
 
robi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: socal
Posts: 1,563

Drives: evo8

Heard you got a new Present from KW...
__________________
ROBISPEC///
EvolutionM Tuner Champion 2004///EvolutionM Nitto Tire Champion 2006 ///1st Open Touring Challenge T-3 /// 2nd Limited AWD SS time attack /// 1st SCCUSCC Roadrace /// 1st & 2nd NASA TT Unlimited Class 2005 ///2nd TTR NASA Nationals 2006

"BEST turning AWD EVO, I've driven!" - Best Motoring's Keiichi Tsuchiya

Partners:
Buschur Racing /// Mike W /// KW/// Whiteline /// ENKEI /// Nitto Tires////// APR


robispec.com
"...live a little!"
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 3, 2008, 07:08 PM   #263
Silver Sponsor +1
Personal Sales Rating: (461)
 
TTP Engineering's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Central FL
Posts: 8,838

Drives: 2008 Evolution GSR SSS, 2005 Evolution MR, 2003 Evo GSR, 1995 TsiAWD, 1995 GST, 1995 Tsi 2wd, 1991 GVR4 WW, 1991 GVR4 NBM, 1993 TsiAWD, 1991 Tsi, 1995 RS N20

Send a message via AIM to TTP Engineering
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidbuschur View Post
Yes, eventually we will do a MAF pipe, sorry I missed that question.

TTP, what do you mean? Seriously, the cores that support 750 whp are the typical 3.5" cores you see everyone using/selling (including us, I am not pointing fingers). The problem is the intake air temps get hot as hell when you start pushing the boost hard and making a lot of horsepower.

This time around rather than offering two intercoolers I want to just offer one and get the job done best right off the bat.

We are working hard on the car and are just waiting on the end tanks to be cut for this new core. I am hoping for tomorrow......
How did we get to Evo X's 750whp expectations being to low.

Getting right into it I see. With some mystery about what these blocks can take, you're sure not taking it slow to some big goals ahead. Good Luck.
__________________
2005 Evolution VIII MR
763whp/595tq HTA86
10.19 & 143.3mph stock ECU
Factory ECU Expert

2008 Evolution X GSR
12.0@113mph Full Wt+


In House Mustang Dyno AWD-500!
www.ttp-engineering.com


(407) 475-0010
AIM=TTPEngineering

MODIFYING THE 4G63 SINCE 1995, YES 14 YEARS!

TUNING EVO V - EVO X & 2009 RALLIART!

TTP's Myspace page!
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 3, 2008, 07:28 PM   #264
Gold Sponsor
Personal Sales Rating: (44)
 
davidbuschur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,001

Yes, I did finally get my KW box, notice I said FINALLY When you coming back to do some alignment, installation and corner weighting buddy?

TTP, the way I see it, the better the intercooler the easier it is to make big power reliably. Not sure if the EVO X will ever see 1000 whp like the old 4g63 does but hell, just incase I want to be ready! haha
__________________
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com



First 4g63 in the 12's, 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's and 7's.
WORLD'S FIRST EVO8 IN THE 8'S
WORLD'S FASTEST EVO8, 172.74 MPH.
WORLD's First EVO in the 9's on pump gas.

STOCK ECU's:
BR EVO X, pump gas, 11.71@124.01 mph
Project White, E85, 10.35@138.53 mph
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 3, 2008, 07:46 PM   #265
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: (17)
 
jbrown's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: S. Florida
Posts: 1,551

Drives: '03 BBY Evo 8

Send a message via AIM to jbrown
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidbuschur View Post
Yes, I did finally get my KW box, notice I said FINALLY When you coming back to do some alignment, installation and corner weighting buddy?

TTP, the way I see it, the better the intercooler the easier it is to make big power reliably. Not sure if the EVO X will ever see 1000 whp like the old 4g63 does but hell, just incase I want to be ready! haha
My only beef with one intercooler is that someone who never wants more than 400-500hp could benefit from the improved response a smaller core would offer compared to a 1000-hp monster.

Just a thought.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian_H View Post
I got mine off ebay, it's totally the same. I don't know anything about cars but I can tell you its totally the same, butt dyno felt huge results and my friends brothers uncles cousin runs one in a fast honda.
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 4, 2008, 06:39 AM   #266
Gold Sponsor
Personal Sales Rating: (44)
 
davidbuschur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,001

That is not correct jbrown. Go take a look at the charts that Mellon just posted switching from our deluxe FMIC to the race FMIC. Power was gained everywhere with no adverse effect on the spool up. When it comes to making power, get the AIT's as low as you can.
__________________
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com



First 4g63 in the 12's, 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's and 7's.
WORLD'S FIRST EVO8 IN THE 8'S
WORLD'S FASTEST EVO8, 172.74 MPH.
WORLD's First EVO in the 9's on pump gas.

STOCK ECU's:
BR EVO X, pump gas, 11.71@124.01 mph
Project White, E85, 10.35@138.53 mph
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 4, 2008, 06:48 AM   #267
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: (2)
 
tsitalon1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 898

Drives: 2008 Evo X GSR

Quote:
Originally Posted by davidbuschur View Post
Yes, eventually we will do a MAF pipe, sorry I missed that question.

TTP, what do you mean? Seriously, the cores that support 750 whp are the typical 3.5" cores you see everyone using/selling (including us, I am not pointing fingers). The problem is the intake air temps get hot as hell when you start pushing the boost hard and making a lot of horsepower.

This time around rather than offering two intercoolers I want to just offer one and get the job done best right off the bat.

We are working hard on the car and are just waiting on the end tanks to be cut for this new core. I am hoping for tomorrow......
The only problem I see with this Dave is that those of use that want to retain the warranty for as long as possible, would rather have the 750hp version that required absolutely no cutting/moding to fit onto the car.
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 4, 2008, 06:54 AM   #268
EvoM Super Moderator
Personal Sales Rating: (20)
2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
 
Noize's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Under the radar
Posts: 5,239

Drives: PB Evo X

Quote:
Originally Posted by tsitalon1 View Post
The only problem I see with this Dave is that those of use that want to retain the warranty for as long as possible, would rather have the 750hp version that required absolutely no cutting/moding to fit onto the car.
I think before he said that the IC would not have any trimming required.
__________________
Powered by Ultimate Racing and Ecuflash
Site rules and guidelines can be found by clicking here
Autocritic blogspot
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 4, 2008, 07:10 AM   #269
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: (2)
 
tsitalon1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 898

Drives: 2008 Evo X GSR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Noize View Post
I think before he said that the IC would not have any trimming required.
For the 750hp version. For the 1000hp version, I thought he said it required some triming and slight grinding.
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 4, 2008, 07:26 AM   #270
Gold Sponsor
Personal Sales Rating: (44)
 
davidbuschur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 11,001

There is no way the dealer is going to find or have a problem. I will take a picture of the modification that needs to be done when we put the FMIC on the car for good. I am hoping that is going to be today.
__________________
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com



First 4g63 in the 12's, 11's, 10's, 9's, 8's and 7's.
WORLD'S FIRST EVO8 IN THE 8'S
WORLD'S FASTEST EVO8, 172.74 MPH.
WORLD's First EVO in the 9's on pump gas.

STOCK ECU's:
BR EVO X, pump gas, 11.71@124.01 mph
Project White, E85, 10.35@138.53 mph
Offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
18x12x35, 300, ayc, br, buschur, catback, controller, core, evo, gains, motec, power, price, sport, ttpbuschurforumscomforumshowthreadphpt21016, tuning, yimi

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

 



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0