EVO VIII Suspension Components
Feb 13, 2003, 03:54 PM
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EVO VIII Suspension Components
Been doing some searching with our japanese contact and jap magazines...from what we see, the VII and VIII suspension pieces should be identical.
We are searching right now on a bunch of Cusco, Tein, Gab, and more...I will have pics and updates of what I have found that will for sure cross over tomorrow...
What suspension components do you prefer?
We are searching right now on a bunch of Cusco, Tein, Gab, and more...I will have pics and updates of what I have found that will for sure cross over tomorrow...
What suspension components do you prefer?
Feb 13, 2003, 09:09 PM
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Cusco for diffs, Hoping the stock suspension is as good as they say, I'd like to leave it alone!
I'm wondering how adjustable it is though, is there ample camber adjustment front and rear? If not camber plates would be cool
I'm wondering how adjustable it is though, is there ample camber adjustment front and rear? If not camber plates would be cool
Feb 14, 2003, 10:08 AM
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Well...it is always a better choice for serious more aggressive driving to do coilovers. You have adjustablility that just plain old springs do not give. If you want a lowered look, then go with springs, the ride will be sufficient for driving around town.
However if you compete, drive the car to the max, then coilovers are the way to go. We use the TEIN on our current WRX.
http://www.vividracing.com/images/ph...7C0753_RT8.jpg
The Tein coilovers, which are available for the EVO8, have adjustable front camber plates to set your "camber" . And they include rear pillowball mounts. So you get a nice firm ride...However they include 16 way adjustable dampening which is a great feature. You can tune the coilovers to the type of driving you are doing, soft for the road trips, or crank it down for track racing. Another benefit of coilovers is the adjustable ride height. To low and you will bounce around. But the perfect setting will enhance your cornering and reduce body roll.
Just a opinion...any others...
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However if you compete, drive the car to the max, then coilovers are the way to go. We use the TEIN on our current WRX.
http://www.vividracing.com/images/ph...7C0753_RT8.jpg
The Tein coilovers, which are available for the EVO8, have adjustable front camber plates to set your "camber"
. And they include rear pillowball mounts. So you get a nice firm ride...However they include 16 way adjustable dampening which is a great feature. You can tune the coilovers to the type of driving you are doing, soft for the road trips, or crank it down for track racing. Another benefit of coilovers is the adjustable ride height. To low and you will bounce around. But the perfect setting will enhance your cornering and reduce body roll.Just a opinion...any others...
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Feb 14, 2003, 10:20 AM
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How reliable is the Tein stuff? I know they have an in car electronic shock adjuster which is damn cool
A little off topic how about sourcing an inexpensive 2-piece front disc upgrade? That would be popular. Same dimentions as stock just 2-piece for less warping
A little off topic how about sourcing an inexpensive 2-piece front disc upgrade? That would be popular. Same dimentions as stock just 2-piece for less warping
Feb 14, 2003, 10:27 AM
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Tein is very reliable...You have to understand there is 2 different types of markets...The hardcore JDM racing components like Zeal or HKS coilovers that are Japanese tuners preferred coilover for $2500+ or you go with the less expensive, yet quality $1300-$1700 products for US customers...
I have sold probably 30 sets of Tein for WRX and have had no complaints...Granted the internals are not made like DMS, but the price point is a bonus as well. If you did a poll for the WRX crowd to see what coilovers most use...It would be Tein. In fact here is a quit poll that we did on our site.
http://www.vividracing.com/poll/inde...ispid=28&vo=28
But honestly I love using them, I have the EFC unit as well and it makes the coilover that much more fun to adjust it in cabin. I think they work well for street, track, and autoX. They are not noisy and I have never heard of any wearing down. But you have to understand when people say certain things...such as they will break after a year...NOBODY uses Tein for rally racing or professional street racing. That is how the wear and tear takes place...
But you and I are just out for fun
I have sold probably 30 sets of Tein for WRX and have had no complaints...Granted the internals are not made like DMS, but the price point is a bonus as well. If you did a poll for the WRX crowd to see what coilovers most use...It would be Tein. In fact here is a quit poll that we did on our site.
http://www.vividracing.com/poll/inde...ispid=28&vo=28
But honestly I love using them, I have the EFC unit as well and it makes the coilover that much more fun to adjust it in cabin. I think they work well for street, track, and autoX. They are not noisy and I have never heard of any wearing down. But you have to understand when people say certain things...such as they will break after a year...NOBODY uses Tein for rally racing or professional street racing. That is how the wear and tear takes place...
But you and I are just out for fun
Feb 14, 2003, 10:30 AM
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Sorry I was rambling.. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
Rotors are available from Endless and Project Mu of Japan, as well as Stop Tech soon, and of course DBA of Australia. Since the car all ready comes with 4 piston brakes and 2 piston fronts, I hope but not sure if they have steel braided brake lines? That would be the first upgrade...then I would worry about the rotors.
Usually cross drilled is more of a look. Look at all serious race cars, they use slotted. The ventilation and reliability (wont crack) is better with slotted.
Not a brake expert but know some stuff. I use AP 6 piston on the WRX...They pull your teeth out on a stop!
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Rotors are available from Endless and Project Mu of Japan, as well as Stop Tech soon, and of course DBA of Australia. Since the car all ready comes with 4 piston brakes and 2 piston fronts, I hope but not sure if they have steel braided brake lines? That would be the first upgrade...then I would worry about the rotors.
Usually cross drilled is more of a look. Look at all serious race cars, they use slotted. The ventilation and reliability (wont crack) is better with slotted.
Not a brake expert but know some stuff. I use AP 6 piston on the WRX...They pull your teeth out on a stop!
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VividRacing,
excuse my ignorance, can the Tein coilovers be adjustable on-the-fly? If so, can you mention which systems allow that at what price (I understand that it will be costlier). Many thanks.
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excuse my ignorance, can the Tein coilovers be adjustable on-the-fly? If so, can you mention which systems allow that at what price (I understand that it will be costlier). Many thanks.
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Mar 11, 2003, 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by chronohunter
I'm wondering how adjustable it is though, is there ample camber adjustment front and rear? If not camber plates would be cool
I'm wondering how adjustable it is though, is there ample camber adjustment front and rear? If not camber plates would be cool
Mar 11, 2003, 04:23 AM
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Originally posted by VividRacing.com
Since the car all ready comes with 4 piston brakes and 2 piston fronts, I hope but not sure if they have steel braided brake lines?
Since the car all ready comes with 4 piston brakes and 2 piston fronts, I hope but not sure if they have steel braided brake lines?
First brake upgrade should be:
- steel braided or teflon brake hoses
- high wet boiling point brake fluid
- high temp rating and friction coefficient brake pads
- slotted high temp rating brake discs, 2 piece with aluminum bell for reduced weight and warping probability
Mar 12, 2003, 01:30 PM
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Claudius, where can I get a 2-piece rotor? That would be a nice upgrade. Also, once warping occurs is it possible to keep the aluminum bell and just replace the friction part of the rotor?
Mar 13, 2003, 07:09 AM
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Claudius, where can I get a 2-piece rotor?
Claudius, where can I get a 2-piece rotor?
Originally posted by 91TB78
Also, once warping occurs is it possible to keep the aluminum bell and just replace the friction part of the rotor?
Also, once warping occurs is it possible to keep the aluminum bell and just replace the friction part of the rotor?
Mar 14, 2003, 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by Claudius
I think stock camber adjustment is up to 2.3 deg front and 1.5 rear approx., just not as convenient to set up as with camber adjustable top mounts.
I think stock camber adjustment is up to 2.3 deg front and 1.5 rear approx., just not as convenient to set up as with camber adjustable top mounts.
Camber -1°00' <Default factory setting>
(-2°00' adjustment possible)
0°00'
Caster 3°55' 2°50'
Kingpin inclination 13°45' 12°35'
Toe-in mm (in) 0 (0) 1 (0.04)now on the CD and it say
