megan track or street coilovers?

bikerboy333 · Nov 7, 2009, 09:36 AM

ok before you completely flame me, i read all the stickies as well as using the search forums.

My question is: will a 12k/10k spring rate be that much stiffer than a 8k/6k rate? I am curious if it will be a bone jarring ride or not. I want to get one of the two but i am not sure which i should get. I plan on turning the evo into a track car later on in its life, but for now its my daily driver. I am just wondering if it is a smart choice to go with the tracks now or the streets for the comfort but sporty ride.

Thanks in advance
(if a moderator can just post a link to a separate thread that is the same i wont be offended)

delongedoug · Nov 7, 2009, 10:32 AM

If it's just a daily driver, why would you want coilovers? Get some springs and then get good coilovers when you actually make it a track car.

**SmikeEvo** · Nov 7, 2009, 10:41 AM

First off, those rates are all wrong.

Secondly, I ran those, was not happy with the Tracks (performance wise).

Did this:

Bilstein HD and Swift GSR Product Review, Comparisons, Impressions, and Comments

Swift Spec R's Reviewed!!!

Swift Stabilizer Bars Reviewed

I tracked and AX'd on Swifts and Bilsteins. In the end, my car handled better with the Swift/Bilstein package.

Also worth reading up on: GTWorx and RobiSpec springs.

bikerboy333 · Nov 7, 2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SmikeEvo

First off, those rates are all wrong.

Secondly, I ran those, was not happy with the Tracks (performance wise).

Did this:

Bilstein HD and Swift GSR Product Review, Comparisons, Impressions, and Comments

Swift Spec R's Reviewed!!!

Swift Stabilizer Bars Reviewed

I tracked and AX'd on Swifts and Bilsteins. In the end, my car handled better with the Swift/Bilstein package.

Also worth reading up on: GTWorx and RobiSpec springs.

thanks for the links, good info

How are the spring rates wrong? The web site says 12k front and 10k rear for track and 8k front and 6k rear for street. what are the correct spring rates. Can u adjust the ride height on the bilstein coombo? i really want adjustable ride height

dambikeracer · Nov 7, 2009, 09:25 PM

SAve your money and get some KW's

Kracka · Nov 7, 2009, 09:42 PM

No reason for coilovers unless its a track car. Coilovers will just ride harsher, cost more money, make more noise, and need replacing/rebuilding more often (especially the cheap China ones). There are plenty of good shock/spring combos available.

**SmikeEvo** · Nov 8, 2009, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bikerboy333

thanks for the links, good info

How are the spring rates wrong? The web site says 12k front and 10k rear for track and 8k front and 6k rear for street. what are the correct spring rates. Can u adjust the ride height on the bilstein coombo? i really want adjustable ride height

Suspension Discussion Thread Links

See the Spring Rate thread and What Makes A Coilover Good thread.

You do not need adjustable height on any suspension. Once setup, don't touch it. You also need to corner balance coilovers. Which is why, once set - leave it.

The Swift/Bilstein combo is basically a non-adjustable coilover (spring goes over strut). But it so well matched - you do need to adjust it. And bonus, no corner balancing. Just needs a good alignment.

Joemflsxe · Nov 9, 2009, 08:02 AM

I had Swift Spec-R springs on the stock KYB's for the past year or so, maybe more. Recently I picked up a set of Megan Track series coilovers, reviews are so mixed I decided to just try them, for less than $900 shipped I feel it's worth it.

I've had them on the car for a few weeks and overall I've very satisfied so far. I live in South West Florida and we have extremely good roads, I'm running them on the stiffest setting on the streets and yes it's stiff, but no where near as unbearable as many people express. As far as noise, I've only heard very faint "squeaking" every so often, nothing that bothers me or seems like an issue, I expected it running these on the street.

I feel the car handles and rides better now with the coilovers compared to my old strut/spring combo. I don't have any data, or lap/autocross times to back it up, they just feel better and thats enough for me.

On a side note, do your own research, even off this forum if you can. Keep in mind a lot of information is biased here (i.e. SmkeEvo being sponsored by Swift and GTWorx and giving suspension advice).

**SmikeEvo** · Nov 9, 2009, 08:06 AM

And I actually race my car. I have tested a TON of parts. I give my opinion.

What are the valving plots for those Megans? Wait, there are none. Their quality is all over the map. They cannot be rebuilt. Their spring rates are all wrong in terms of motion ratio.

You just "feel" its better. Swifts, GTWorx, and RobiSpec are all designed of our cars - rates, progressive nature - ask Megan what sort of research and development they did - again, none. They took another coilover and copied it.

bikerboy333 · Nov 9, 2009, 09:10 AM

ok well i can see i have some more research to do still. I appreciate everyone's input. good to see some one who has had them

GTWORX.com · Nov 9, 2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Joemflsxe

On a side note, do your own research, even off this forum if you can. Keep in mind a lot of information is biased here (i.e. SmkeEvo being sponsored by Swift and GTWorx and giving suspension advice).

For what it's worth, Smike has never received a discount or anything free from me, other than suspension advice. His car was set-up before I had a chance to do anything.

- Andrew

**SmikeEvo** · Nov 9, 2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GTWORX.com

For what it's worth, Smike has never received a discount or anything free from me, other than suspension advice. His car was set-up before I had a chance to do anything.

- Andrew

And his advice was always priceless in getting my Evo to work at the best it could be.

edmundo · Nov 10, 2009, 04:26 PM

So who is going to answer the question in the OP?

Joemflsxe · Nov 10, 2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by edmundo

So who is going to answer the question in the OP?

Read my post (#28)

Obviously the track series will be stiffer, I run them on the streets with no issues or "bone jarring" effects.

GTWORX.com · Nov 11, 2009, 10:42 AM

Smike's point is that if they run 12k/10k for a "track" coilover, it's clear that do not know anything about suspension for the EVO and should be avoided. This is the WRONG way to do things and literally suspension 101 stuff.

Seriously read this thread....it can be enlightening.
Choosing coilover spring rates for your EVO

- Andrew