ghostrider

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To me, rice is simply anything extra showy that doesn't necessarily reflect upon the overall performance of your car. For example, lots of stickers. I can understand having decals for all your various products that you have installed on your car, but when you think of it, where do you draw the line?

It's not like you're a Nascar driver, and remember kids, they get paid for sporting all those. Outside of folks that run decal packages as part of their sponsorship, it's just free advertisement.

Looking at the Evo 7 tail conversion as being ricey doesn't hold up in my eyes. The whole concept of altezzas being ricey came from folks putting them onto non-Altezzas in the first place, and then it was an expensive non-performance mod. But in the case of swapping out the altezzas on the 8 for non-altezzas isn't ricey. If anything, it's de-ricing the 8.

krms

Agreed with ghostrider.

I4K20C

I remember when i used to go on Superhonda.com and alota people who were asian got really affended.. b/c some people started to use teh word "rice" on that forum..and alota asian people got offended and they made it a huge thread.... lol..idk why im reminded of that but i am... I think that some cars look bad or w.e...or some people are idiots when it comes to cars... But truthfully they shouldn't give one thing about what i think about there car... The only people i don't like is people who mod their cars so that other people think it looks cool...Personally.. If som1 doesn't like my car thas cool..and if som1 likes me car thas cool too...sure it feels good when som1 gives you props for your car... but the more important thing for me is knowing when i look outside my window..I liek the way it is..not somoneone else....

Jus my .02 cents..

dmora

Gtech is pretty ricey.
Its about as acurate as 2 tin cans and line of string are as a phone.

If i bought an Evo, the first things i would toss would be the ricer tail lights, and the horrendous front end. I would swap them with the Evo 7 parts.

ghostrider

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Good point. The G-Tech won't give you any performance gains either, and neither will the turbo timer, so those are rice as well.

SinGin

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No way. I know someone who just came from the dyno and the G-tech gave them 25 rwhp.

Evoandy

are you serious? Turbo timers are kinda important, unless you like replacing your turbos every 25k miles.

Jebus

Mmm, I could be wrong, but I think ghostrider was trying to be funny, bud. Obviously, everyone realizes (even we NA non-turbo poor sob's) that a turbo timer is important and not "ricey" (whatever the hell that means )

Like I said, I could be wrong though.

MalibuJack

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I don't use a turbo timer.. I find it a bit of a waste, it used to be really important to keep from baking the bearings on your turbo.. With synthetic oils, its not really as necessary unless your really hard on your car, it gives the bearings time to cool off in the turbo.. However, a wise investment is an "After Oiler" or what most drag racers call an Accumulator.. It will keep the engine (or turbo bearings if you want) pressurised with oil in the event of oil pump (pressure) failure, but it has the side effect of keeping the engine oiled after its shut down for some period of time. Its the best investment you can make if you are too lazy to wait 2-5 minutes before shutting off the engine. Now for the Rice -vs- nice comments.. Personally I don't much care for the eye candy, neon, altezzas, loud stereos, lots of uneccesary instrumentation honkin all over the place.. thats what I would consider rice.. only I wouldn't call it rice, just eye candy. I truly believe that form follows function, and if you are making functional modifications, you will get a little form to go along with it. In the end, there's nothing wrong with personalizing your car with things you like. Its when there is NO SUBSTANCE behind the style that makes it tacky.

Ethan

IF the car needed a turbo timer, it would have come with one.

Jebus

And if one were to add an aftermarket turbo?

dmora

The turbo timer is a convenience, as is an electronic boost controller. The poor man's guide to modifications would dictate taking an extra couple of minutes to drive "normally" before you shut down, and the let it idle a bit while parked.

A manual boost controller can some times be better than an electronic boost controller as well.

Just my 2 cents.

ghostrider

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No, I wasn't kidding. As dmora said, it's a convenience for all you folks that wanna floor out your car and get the turbo all warmed up just before you pull up to your place and then promptly turn off the car. If you're silly enough to do that, then yes, you better like hell get a turbo timer cuz you WILL be replacing yoru turbo.

astondg

I think the fact that the Evolution VII has more power and torque and faster acceleration times (that I have seen anyway) than the US Evolution VIII proves that the Evolution VII lights give a significant performance advantage.

Aston

LanEvo

thats why i said "somewhat" rice......i dont really think i'd treat it exactly as a riceboy mod, but i think that it is beginning to venture into that territory

maybe its just coz i see so many threads saying "omg i need jdm this jdm that swap the 7 parts" and all that stuff