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Old Jan 2, 2006, 09:12 AM
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Old Jan 2, 2006, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
On dragtimes.com, a data base of REAL peoples times, the fastest SRT-8 was 13.023 and he had intake and exhaust. Fastest stock time was 13.101 and another guy did 13.610, also stock. Therefore I doubt the SRT-8 can hit 12s stock.

heres the link.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge--Magnum-Drag-Racing.html
There are only 3 SRT8's on that list Not quite the cross-section you want to rely on when coming to a "definite" conclusion...

You'll also notice on that site, that an Evo ran a 12.994 @ 103.620, which is 5mph slower than the SRT8s on the list. You don't think a good driver could parlay 5mph into .2 of a second?
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those 1/4 mile times are a typo, those are actually road and tracks 0-100 times that they posted from another issue. the correct times can be found in r&t "sports & gt cars 2006" 13.5 for the IX MR 13.3 for the SRT-8
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Originally Posted by JuniorRSX!
those 1/4 mile times are a typo, those are actually road and tracks 0-100 times that they posted from another issue. the correct times can be found in r&t "sports & gt cars 2006" 13.5 for the IX MR 13.3 for the SRT-8
Which sounds like real world numbers to me.
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Originally Posted by JuniorRSX!
those 1/4 mile times are a typo, those are actually road and tracks 0-100 times that they posted from another issue. the correct times can be found in r&t "sports & gt cars 2006" 13.5 for the IX MR 13.3 for the SRT-8
Hah, well we know those times aren't right either. You'd have to be a gimp to run a 13.5 in a IX MR.
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Originally Posted by TForan
Which sounds like real world numbers to me.
Your hearing needs to be checked then...

03/04 Evos run 13.3 with as much as 40-50whp less than IXs. I ran 13.1 in my 05 with a weak 1.92 60'. You do the math...
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110 mph seem aboout right for a 10 to 1 (LBS to hp) car . That would be like a evo having 330-340 hp mph wise . So it might be the "norm" for srt8 to trap 111.xx but its not to far fetched
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you can't use one time that an evo gets at a track to say how all other evo's will run at another track. some tracks evo's run low 13's all day and at another they barely break into the 13's with alot of 14 sec runs. there are to many variables such as temp, track surface, elevation, and even the timing equipment. but the one thing i know is that at any track a stock srt-8 is not going to post a mid 11 sec time.
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Originally Posted by JuniorRSX!
you can't use one time that an evo gets at a track to say how all other evo's will run at another track. some tracks evo's run low 13's all day and at another they barely break into the 13's with alot of 14 sec runs. there are to many variables such as temp, track surface, elevation, and even the timing equipment. but the one thing i know is that at any track a stock srt-8 is not going to post a mid 11 sec time.
Yes, this is all obvious and has already been said. We know the 11.5 was wrong, but I already showed proof of a 300C SRT-8 that ran 12.56@111.5. Also, the times I've been quoting for the Evo are pretty normal. I didn't tell you about the 03 that ran 12.9 stock...I only claimed the 13.3 that any decent driver can accomplish in good conditions.

The point is what cars are CAPABLE OF doing, not what they do in Tuscon, Idaho, NY, or Alabama where all the conditions of temp, humidity, and altitude are different.
Old Jan 2, 2006, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by timzcat

The articles may not be posted, it is copyrighted. We have had the magazines request in the past that thier articles be removed.
I was wondering what happend to the extra pictures I posted last night of the article and cover. I looked at the thread this morning and wondered if I hadn't pushed "submit reply"!
Old Jan 2, 2006, 10:16 AM
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depending on "track conditions" someone could still be a good driver and only post a 13.5 in an IX MR. they wouldn't have to be a "gimp".
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Your hearing needs to be checked then...

Aahh, don't use my hearing while I'm reading. And you?

03/04 Evos run 13.3 with as much as 40-50whp less than IXs. I ran 13.1 in my 05 with a weak 1.92 60'. You do the math...
So, A VIII put out 168 hp on a Dynojet?
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Originally Posted by fromWRXtoEVO
LOL, that is a good one bro. Now let me tell you the good things about Tucson and surrounding:

It is one of the cities were there are more vehicles clubs per square mile, I really mean it: Harley clubs, Hot rods,muscle classic, imports

On winter time during the day you can be in shorts,sandles and t tops, great weather.

Then you have Sierra Vista which is about 45 minutes away with a lot of sub clubs as well.

On the other hand there are multiple club rides just about every single weekend, Tucson has a lot of mountains in the surroundings and there are a few autocross tracks nearby(Pinal motorplex, Sierra Vista municipal airport,Tucson SIR)

Every weekend Tucson offers you a huge variety of car events that you can join.
Also, there are a lot of well organized"not so friendly legal events" (cough) you know what I mean, there are straigh line desertic roads everywhere and off course that is a lot of fun too..


Then the best part of all, you can congregate 15-20 Evos and 10-15 WRX-STI at any given time, there are too many and fortunately WRX/STI and Evos here in Tucson get alone very very well because we normally go cruising the mountains often. Summarizing, great weather, great relationship between EVO/STI and a lot of respect for other cars but remember, SIR is famous for being one of the worst track in the country
Back when I was 18 or so (20 years ago, god I am getting old) they used to have races out on Bopp road and Rita road that were called the "Illegals". Until about 2am, it was mostly just normal cars racing, but after 2am, the 800+ horsepower monsters would come out and play. It was really awesome. Do they still do that? I am sure they don't do it on the same roads since Tucson has expanded so much since then. Hell, there used to be an awesome party spot called 17 Poles. It was 17 telephone/power poles past Houghton Rd on Broadway. There are houses there now. Ah well, despite some(!) of Tucson police officers being some of the worst in the nation, Tucson was an awesome place to live.

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Originally Posted by TForan
So, A VIII put out 168 hp on a Dynojet?
No, why would you ask that? I'm getting annoyed by your ignorance of these basics and coming in as a newbie questioning everything we already know as proven fact.

IXs are dyno'ing 270-275whp on Dynojets with 93oct near sea level. 03-04s only did 225-235. You do the math...

If that doesn't make sense, then be advised that IX are consistently trapping 106-107mph on 93oct near sea level while 03/04s only do 102-103mph. Again, do the math.
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
No, why would you ask that? I'm getting annoyed by your ignorance of these basics and coming in as a newbie questioning everything we already know as proven fact.
Relax son. 218 is what Buschur dynos the IX at. Minus 50 = 168.


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