2.3L GT3076Build - Page 5

Duh Panda · Sep 5, 2008, 09:06 AM

THAT ACT clutch isnt going to be able to hang with you bro

sorrry to say

sell it and put it in towards a twin disk

jid2 · Sep 5, 2008, 09:28 AM

The clutch is rated for about 570 ft-lbs of torque. As great as it would be to make that much torque I don't think it will be happening. As you can see by the pictures of my stock clutch with 100K miles on it I'm not hard on clutches.

sabastian458 · Sep 5, 2008, 09:36 AM

I would do the twin. Several people went ahead and went from the single to the twin when they went with a 2.3l

scorke · Sep 5, 2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sabastian458

I would do the twin. Several people went ahead and went from the single to the twin when they went with a 2.3l

Oh yeah ?

Binary, listen to this man, the 30R on race gas will make close to 500ft lbs of tq, it will murder the HDSS I assure you.

Scorke

jid2 · Sep 5, 2008, 09:53 AM

It's a XTSS, but I could swap out the street disk for the 6 puck race disk which is good for 726 ft-lbs.

I really don't like twin disks. I had lots of friends with them when I was in Utah and they always had problems with them.

Thanks for the input, I like to hear what you guys think. I'll make a few calls and see what my options are.

wshihdnevo · Sep 5, 2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jid2@[BINARY]

It's a XTSS, but I could swap out the street disk for the 6 puck race disk which is good for 726 ft-lbs.

I really don't like twin disks. I had lots of friends with them when I was in Utah and they always had problems with them.

Thanks for the input, I like to hear what you guys think. I'll make a few calls and see what my options are.

I have the ACTHD w/ sprung 6 puck, I would def recommend getting it over the SS disk. I have had friends who have had it and while its a better driving disk I dont think it will last long even w/ your setup. The HD w/ sprung 6 puck isnt a very friendly clutch though.

SickSilverNLow · Sep 5, 2008, 11:54 PM

^i got the same clutch as you do and you are right.........its not a friendly clutch.

wshihdnevo · Sep 6, 2008, 01:26 AM

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True dat! It holds everything you throw at it though, thats for sure.

jid2 · Sep 6, 2008, 11:10 AM

Ordered my valves on Thursday and they arrived Friday - Sweet. 1mm oversize, stainless steel - full set of intake and exhaust $115 shipped

Often times major car projects come with domestic projects that get "slipped" in as a compensation for long periods of time spent in the garage. I was planning on working on the car over the weekend - in order to do that I was up until midnight Friday night painting

I'll run out of rooms to paint before I ever finish screwing with my car

Duh Panda · Sep 6, 2008, 12:02 PM

itll hold but for about a month or two... lol

bite the bullet and invest in a twin disk... why would you put that much money into the motor and cheap out on the transmission?...

SickSilverNLow · Sep 7, 2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wshihdnevo

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True dat! It holds everything you throw at it though, thats for sure.

yup pretty much....i have friends with evos who has the same clutch who put down over 420wtq and no problems with this clutch.

jid2 · Sep 7, 2008, 12:16 PM

Down to the block now and ready to hand it over to the machine shop on Monday. Here the mess off final parts tossed about the garage.

Looking at the stock bearings I found something a little scary. This is the main closest to the flywheel. Not sweet.

JKav · Sep 7, 2008, 01:09 PM

Yeesh. Do any of the other bearings look that bad?

jid2 · Sep 9, 2008, 09:44 AM

The other bearings are fine.

So I dropped a bunch of stuff off at the machine shop. I'm using a local shop that did the machine work on Cascade Autosports EVO rally car motors. They're not a cheap machine shop, and they want to build everything like a full-blown race motor - but I'm not made of money. They want to inspect everything, re-size everything, polish everything, and assemble everything - and charge for everything. I had to literally grab the work order and start crossing things off because I seriously couldn't afford it all. I wanted them to do "machine work", I'd check everything during assembly and if I found problems I could bring them in for fixing. But they keep saying "we should check that up front- we do better work than your able to do etc."

Anyway the guy at the desk was trying to up-sell me to death and I felt like I was getting hosed. I had to call back later after I had originally left and talk to the actual owner/machinist to be clear on what we were doing and what the cost was.

After going through all this I can say there is comfort to be had from simply buying a built short block from a good shop like Buschur, AMS, or JAM. I am still stressed over this and wondering if I'll regret skipping some of the 10 billion steps the machine shop wanted to go through. But in the end I'll be into the stroker shortblock about $2200, where buying one costs $3500.

The reason I didn't buy a built shortblock was because I've always wanted to build an engine. This will be my first, and as nerve racking as it is you don't get experience until you do it. So well see how things go.

wshihdnevo · Sep 9, 2008, 11:23 AM

$1300 is still $1300

Experience is everything. I would love to build mine, but prob wont for my first motor.