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pic of mine when it was still on the stand
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I'm just putting in new valve springs for piece of mind since my car has 100K on it. I'll give it a light port and polish while I'm in there but I'm not doing bigger valves. I'm not looking to set any records or maximize the potential of every single part. That costs too much money. I'm looking to balance the power-to-money-spent ratio. At some point the graph of money vs power really starts to flatten out and you put lots of $$$ in for small gains in certain areas. I'm trying to stay in the steep area of the graph.
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Aug 14, 2008, 09:30 AM
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Are you running the stock ECU?
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jid2 Built: Now featuring E85 super fuel
2.3L - GT3076R .63A/R, ETS equal length, Kelford 272's, BC valve springs, 1mm O/S valves, FIC BM 1450's, Full-Blown dual Walbros, Buschur IC, jid2 intake, airbox, IC pipes, APS BOV, TBE, ACT HDSS, Stock ECU, 28 psi 466hp/420 ft-lb...
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Binary Lowered Recaro Seats, Girodisc 2-Piece, brake ducting, ST43's, SS lines and ATE Superblue, KW V3's 8K/10K, jid2 flat-bottom, adjustable splitter and aero, 18x9.5 +40 NT03's 265/18/35 BFG R1's
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Aug 14, 2008, 09:34 AM
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Are you running the stock ECU?
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yes, it seems to be taking the stroker well so far. we'll see when the tune is done
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Aug 14, 2008, 10:13 AM
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I'm just putting in new valve springs for piece of mind since my car has 100K on it. I'll give it a light port and polish while I'm in there but I'm not doing bigger valves. I'm not looking to set any records or maximize the potential of every single part. That costs too much money. I'm looking to balance the power-to-money-spent ratio. At some point the graph of money vs power really starts to flatten out and you put lots of $$$ in for small gains in certain areas. I'm trying to stay in the steep area of the graph.
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neat idea, I'd like to see that graph! Should also analyze fun vs. time.
I'm working on a avg. lap time vs. fiance happynes plotted on time. Might convert to a bode plot.
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Aug 14, 2008, 10:33 AM
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yes, it seems to be taking the stroker well so far. we'll see when the tune is done
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What did you do in terms of balancing the rotating assembly, balance shafts etc? My plan is to have the rotating assembly balanced, modify the large balance shaft to keep the bearing support for the oil pump, and then use the Fluidamper to smooth it all out. I think all that together should help the stock ECU deal with the built long stroke action.
EvolvedMR, your graph of laptime vs finance happiness has another factor - size of engagement ring  .
I'm no expert, but I consider things like: massive head work, intake manifolds, throttle bodies, twin scroll exhaust manifolds, twin scroll turbine housings, and the "newest" over priced turbo to be in the realm of "past the hump" on the money to power graph. Then again I know I'm telling myself that for a reason - so I can justify not buying them. I need to buy a plasma cutter and a milling machine before I need an intake manifold and fully built head - that I know for sure.
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jid2 Built: Now featuring E85 super fuel
2.3L - GT3076R .63A/R, ETS equal length, Kelford 272's, BC valve springs, 1mm O/S valves, FIC BM 1450's, Full-Blown dual Walbros, Buschur IC, jid2 intake, airbox, IC pipes, APS BOV, TBE, ACT HDSS, Stock ECU, 28 psi 466hp/420 ft-lb...
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Aug 14, 2008, 10:49 AM
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I had the same oil leak. Engine build threads are the best!
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Aug 14, 2008, 10:52 AM
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What did you do in terms of balancing the rotating assembly, balance shafts etc? My plan is to have the rotating assembly balanced, modify the large balance shaft to keep the bearing support for the oil pump, and then use the Fluidamper to smooth it all out. I think all that together should help the stock ECU deal with the built long stroke action.
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its a JAM stage 2 block so it has the balance shafts that have been turned down for clearance and it was balanced as a complete rotating assembly. im also using a fluidampr to help keep the engine as quiet as possible.
so far, so good
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Aug 14, 2008, 11:44 AM
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Nice. Sounds like what I've got planned as well.
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nice build.
I cant wait to put a big motor in my evo too.
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I was waiting to see what you would do with that turbo. GL!
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I was waiting to see what you would do with that turbo. GL!
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It was collecting dust pretty reliably while I was buying parts for a few months!
I'm going to do a quick test fit of the manifold and turbo so I can plan out my radiator and intercooler concept. I'll snap a pic of that.
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2.3L - GT3076R .63A/R, ETS equal length, Kelford 272's, BC valve springs, 1mm O/S valves, FIC BM 1450's, Full-Blown dual Walbros, Buschur IC, jid2 intake, airbox, IC pipes, APS BOV, TBE, ACT HDSS, Stock ECU, 28 psi 466hp/420 ft-lb...
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Aug 14, 2008, 11:06 PM
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looks like an awesome setup....  .
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Aug 14, 2008, 11:36 PM
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good luck with everything, there is a lot of good info here to assist you with assembling the motor. also the service manual is your friend too. I think getting the head totally worked over in your case (100k miles) would be worth it. But hey, if you can getaway with it, more power to ya. Your setup looks like it will be awsome!
I'm waiting on my head to be done with the porting/valve job for my 2.0 build I have been doing in my garage/ and at work. I wish I could have justified not porting the head because of time and money, but I think once I slap it back on and get it running I won't regret it.
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Aug 15, 2008, 12:47 PM
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Food for thought,
Gt3076r put down 433awhp on pump gas on a stock motor 2.0 , stock ecu, 1000cc injectors on my car. Keep in mind that my car had a stock im/tb , cat. convertor, and boost leaks so bad the tester wouldn't hold past 7psi.
This turbo on a 2.3 should easily get you the power/response that you are looking for on pump-- fair to say 475-500 dynojet on pump is possible with AEM.
Gamebred put down 424hp on a stock ix/stock ecu on pump as well.
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4kinboost, you're my new hero for understanding what we're attempting to do... Now, we decided to see how little we could do to Indy's car and still get good results. Our goal is 11.50 in the least modified way of getting there.,,,, This is being done without a dyno, since dyno time is expensive and most street guys don't have the benefit of taking their car to a dyno every week. All of Indy's tunes have been with street and track logging and using ECUFLASH.
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