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If I go with Tomei,is it better to choose the solid camshafts with the solid pivots or should I use just the lash camshafts?
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Lash.. The solid lifters just cause issues and it is more $
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Mar 31, 2009, 10:14 PM
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oh god !! I just saw this thread after got BC 272
It's seem no value added 
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Mar 31, 2009, 10:18 PM
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oh god !! I just saw this thread after got BC 272
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BC's are garbage lol.
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Apr 1, 2009, 07:07 AM
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BC's are garbage lol.
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BC's are not garbage, they just weren't a match for Martin's car. In fact, they are the ONLY cams that added power down low.
The three best cams in this test might only be in the middle of the pack on a different block with a different head and turbo.
All cams are a calculated compromise based mainly on rpm range, but also on flow and VE at given points. Did anyone notice that all of the highest peak-power cams had the worst low end? The Kelfords were exceptional, but that just means they were the perfect match for Martin's setup. Anyone who buys cams based solely on this test is confused unless you have the same bore, stroke, turbo, manifolds, and headwork as Martin's car.
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I got mine off ebay, it's totally the same. I don't know anything about cars but I can tell you its totally the same, butt dyno felt huge results and my friends brothers uncles cousin runs one in a fast honda.
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Apr 1, 2009, 09:14 AM
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I've tuned a few evos and the BC guys consistently make less power than others...I don't recommend them.
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Apr 1, 2009, 10:37 AM
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BC's are not garbage, they just weren't a match for Martin's car. In fact, they are the ONLY cams that added power down low.
The three best cams in this test might only be in the middle of the pack on a different block with a different head and turbo.
All cams are a calculated compromise based mainly on rpm range, but also on flow and VE at given points. Did anyone notice that all of the highest peak-power cams had the worst low end? The Kelfords were exceptional, but that just means they were the perfect match for Martin's setup. Anyone who buys cams based solely on this test is confused unless you have the same bore, stroke, turbo, manifolds, and headwork as Martin's car.
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Cant comment on BC's, but jbrown makes some very valid points. What i got from this very much appreciated test was which cams 'seem' best for my goals which is responsivness and mid range. Theres no way I would/could think that my car and many others for that matter would make similar power to any of the cams tested here as the stats/build of the tested car is much superior to the majority here.
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Apr 1, 2009, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jbrown
BC's are not garbage, they just weren't a match for Martin's car. In fact, they are the ONLY cams that added power down low.
The three best cams in this test might only be in the middle of the pack on a different block with a different head and turbo.
All cams are a calculated compromise based mainly on rpm range, but also on flow and VE at given points. Did anyone notice that all of the highest peak-power cams had the worst low end? The Kelfords were exceptional, but that just means they were the perfect match for Martin's setup. Anyone who buys cams based solely on this test is confused unless you have the same bore, stroke, turbo, manifolds, and headwork as Martin's car.
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Hey Jbrown is that why people make no power with them? Anywho any cam that comes several degrees off due to QC is garbage in my eyes (besides the fact they don't make power). Hey that's what opinions are for right? You keep running BC's, I will continue saying they're garbage  .
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Apr 2, 2009, 02:10 AM
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i put hks 280s in and gained alot of hp with the tune im happy with those n i only paid 300 for them
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Apr 3, 2009, 08:26 AM
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I will be ordering the kelford 272 soon thanks for the right up man
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Apr 3, 2009, 10:22 AM
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very happy w/my GSC S's overall performance!! I'm running stock motor otherwise and ETS equal length 58mm turbo kit etc..
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Apr 3, 2009, 03:53 PM
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very happy w/my GSC S's overall performance!! I'm running stock motor otherwise and ETS equal length 58mm turbo kit etc..
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+1 for GSC S2, couldnt be happier with how the car runs, smooth idle and no drivability problems 
heres the Kelfords vs S2 graphs from the 1st page
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Apr 29, 2009, 11:37 AM
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May 10, 2009, 09:30 AM
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i didnt read thru the whole thread but does anybody run Helix 272's thats what i have. I havent had any issues with them..
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May 12, 2009, 07:43 PM
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I have the Kelford 272's with my FP Red and my scientific analysis is..... they rock.
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May 13, 2009, 08:52 PM
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I can't decide between S2's Kelfords or Cossie M3's. What do you guys think for an FP Red set up
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