Project FQ-400
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Project FQ-400
So I bought a 2006 Evo MR SE in Apex Silver (yes I know, the color isn't the most rare thing in the world). However the MR SE isn't easy to come across, so I'm happy that I received that package interior with the shiny wheels.
The car is (as anyone would say that has driven one) amazing, it really makes you wonder if you want to tamper with anything at all. It's almost as if you may throw off the perfectly balanced machine that it is.
Well, getting to the point; if you are reading this, you obviously have some sort of knowledge of the FQ-400, and how it can bash a Lamborghini Murcielago around tracks. (See this video of TopGear on Youtube "click here")
My idea is to create a car as fast, and 'more' reliable (without the incremental 5k miles service).
I am deciding to start with the power. (I should probably start with brakes, then suspension, then the power and weight. However, you know how thirsty you can become when you are in a machine like an Evo).
I will be tuning this car on my own (no prior experience) and am going about it according to this thread: "click here" As for installing parts, I'll be doing all of that on my own as well.
Theoretically, the FQ-400 must be pushing not much more than 350-360hp to the wheels since the 400-405hp is claimed from the factory, and that number usually means that that is what it produces to the flywheel.
Taking that fact, and taking the fact that my good friend with an Evo 8 is pushing 320whp after light mods, makes me believe achieving this horsepower will be the easy part. The following parts that I have installed/purchased below, supposedly will produce more than enough power to get the Evo 9 up to 350-360whp. At that point, I'd begin to wonder if the Turbo will hold up for a long time or not.
So here is the break down of the parts so far.
Currently installed:
To be installed (sitting in garage):
Ordered (coming in soon):
Are there any corners that I may be cutting? Or any things I may have made a mistake on? Any ideas that you guys may think is necessary? Or would this be good enough for 360ish whp?
I'm open to anything, good or bad, its still feedback. Thank you for your time!
-M
The car is (as anyone would say that has driven one) amazing, it really makes you wonder if you want to tamper with anything at all. It's almost as if you may throw off the perfectly balanced machine that it is.
Well, getting to the point; if you are reading this, you obviously have some sort of knowledge of the FQ-400, and how it can bash a Lamborghini Murcielago around tracks. (See this video of TopGear on Youtube "click here")
My idea is to create a car as fast, and 'more' reliable (without the incremental 5k miles service).
I am deciding to start with the power. (I should probably start with brakes, then suspension, then the power and weight. However, you know how thirsty you can become when you are in a machine like an Evo).
I will be tuning this car on my own (no prior experience) and am going about it according to this thread: "click here" As for installing parts, I'll be doing all of that on my own as well.
Theoretically, the FQ-400 must be pushing not much more than 350-360hp to the wheels since the 400-405hp is claimed from the factory, and that number usually means that that is what it produces to the flywheel.
Taking that fact, and taking the fact that my good friend with an Evo 8 is pushing 320whp after light mods, makes me believe achieving this horsepower will be the easy part. The following parts that I have installed/purchased below, supposedly will produce more than enough power to get the Evo 9 up to 350-360whp. At that point, I'd begin to wonder if the Turbo will hold up for a long time or not.
So here is the break down of the parts so far.
Currently installed:
- Greddy Titanium Cat-Back Exhaust.
- Light weight Battery. (This is not an actual picture of my car, just for example purposes, I'll have the real picture up soon).
- Removed spare wheel (that sucker weighs 35lbs!) god help me if i get a flat. LoL.
To be installed (sitting in garage):
- 750cc RC injectors (fq400 has the 680cc's go figure )
- Walbro 255 pump w/installation kit
- Injen lower/upper IC pipes w/intake + filter/adapter If you watch this slideshow... you'll see that the Injen MAF adapter is larger than the Agency that I bought just so I can have a high flow filter for the time being (it came with a K&N air filter) note the differences in the adapter size and restriction, also on the filter size of the injen, and the K&N.
- Perrin manual boost controller (red, i love red )
- Perrin Blow off valve
- Invidia Turbo Outlet Housing (2.7" end) largest i could find.
- Turbo XS 3" down pipe. (no flex, is this bad? I thought it was good, better flow).. (Go figure it had the bung pre welded for the sensor at the 3 o clock position!!!! YES! ) Only problem is that the donut that is included is too small to fit the invidia T/O, and the invidia one is too small to fit in the XS downpipe, the XS one seems to be grindable. I'm going to be posting a thread soon called "Project FQ-400" and I'll post all pictures of my parts and installation and tuning.
- Catco 3" High flow Cat (no sensor bung on this, but the Greddy cat back has one right after the cat, thats where I'll put the O2 sensor I guess )
- Innovate LC1 w/ XD16 2" 1/16 wide band A/F gauge.
- Tactrix Evo specific cable for tuning (USB)
- I have ECU flash and...
- Evo Scan v2.0
- STRI Boost gauge 2" 1/16
- Dual pod steering column by autometer
Ordered (coming in soon):
- Carbon Fiber Dash kit for 3 relocated gauges w/radio relocate to lower.
- STRI Oil Pressure, Oil Temp, Water Temp gauges.
- USB to Serial adapter for the tactrix Evo cable for tuning.
Are there any corners that I may be cutting? Or any things I may have made a mistake on? Any ideas that you guys may think is necessary? Or would this be good enough for 360ish whp?
I'm open to anything, good or bad, its still feedback. Thank you for your time!
-M
Last edited by MagicManRed; Dec 4, 2007 at 12:25 PM. Reason: Update
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Sell the Perrin 50/50 BOV and stick with your original 100% recirculating stock MR metal DV. Get a set of aftermarket MIVEC cams. Get a testpipe instead of the convertor. Do Alky injection as well. Drive the car down to Sean Ivey and have him tune it for you.
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Here ya go
Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ400 parts list:
* Custom built Garrett GT Dual Ball bearing Turbocharger
* Owen Developments custom manufactured cast Stainless Steel Exhaust Manifold and Exhaust Elbow
* Omega Forged Pistons
* HKS Forged Con Rods
* HKS 680cc Injectors
* Zytec ITP116 High Pressure Fuel Pump
* HKS 1.6 mm Steel Head Gasket
* Motec M800 OEM ECU
* HKS Iridium Spark Plugs
* Jan Speed High Flow Sports Cat
* Alcon competition derived 240 mm high clamp mode, heavy duty clutch complete with Cera-metallic 6 paddle sprung centred drive plate
* HKS High Strength Head and Big End Bolts
* Alcon Mono6 Brake Kit incorporating Monobloc 6 pot road caliper with 343 mm curved vein Disc on a Aluminium mounting bell assembly with Ferodo DS2500 brake pads
* Ralliart Aero Mirrors
* Carbon Fibre Front Lip Spoiler
* Carbon Fibre "Sharks Tooth" Rear Vortex Generator
* PIAA High Performance Light and Wiper Upgrade
* Gloss Black Team Dynamics Lightweight Alloy Wheels
Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ400 parts list:
* Custom built Garrett GT Dual Ball bearing Turbocharger
* Owen Developments custom manufactured cast Stainless Steel Exhaust Manifold and Exhaust Elbow
* Omega Forged Pistons
* HKS Forged Con Rods
* HKS 680cc Injectors
* Zytec ITP116 High Pressure Fuel Pump
* HKS 1.6 mm Steel Head Gasket
* Motec M800 OEM ECU
* HKS Iridium Spark Plugs
* Jan Speed High Flow Sports Cat
* Alcon competition derived 240 mm high clamp mode, heavy duty clutch complete with Cera-metallic 6 paddle sprung centred drive plate
* HKS High Strength Head and Big End Bolts
* Alcon Mono6 Brake Kit incorporating Monobloc 6 pot road caliper with 343 mm curved vein Disc on a Aluminium mounting bell assembly with Ferodo DS2500 brake pads
* Ralliart Aero Mirrors
* Carbon Fibre Front Lip Spoiler
* Carbon Fibre "Sharks Tooth" Rear Vortex Generator
* PIAA High Performance Light and Wiper Upgrade
* Gloss Black Team Dynamics Lightweight Alloy Wheels
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Here ya go
Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ400 parts list:
* Custom built Garrett GT Dual Ball bearing Turbocharger
* Owen Developments custom manufactured cast Stainless Steel Exhaust Manifold and Exhaust Elbow
* Omega Forged Pistons
* HKS Forged Con Rods
* HKS 680cc Injectors
* Zytec ITP116 High Pressure Fuel Pump
* HKS 1.6 mm Steel Head Gasket
* Motec M800 OEM ECU
* HKS Iridium Spark Plugs
* Jan Speed High Flow Sports Cat
* Alcon competition derived 240 mm high clamp mode, heavy duty clutch complete with Cera-metallic 6 paddle sprung centred drive plate
* HKS High Strength Head and Big End Bolts
* Alcon Mono6 Brake Kit incorporating Monobloc 6 pot road caliper with 343 mm curved vein Disc on a Aluminium mounting bell assembly with Ferodo DS2500 brake pads
* Ralliart Aero Mirrors
* Carbon Fibre Front Lip Spoiler
* Carbon Fibre "Sharks Tooth" Rear Vortex Generator
* PIAA High Performance Light and Wiper Upgrade
* Gloss Black Team Dynamics Lightweight Alloy Wheels
Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ400 parts list:
* Custom built Garrett GT Dual Ball bearing Turbocharger
* Owen Developments custom manufactured cast Stainless Steel Exhaust Manifold and Exhaust Elbow
* Omega Forged Pistons
* HKS Forged Con Rods
* HKS 680cc Injectors
* Zytec ITP116 High Pressure Fuel Pump
* HKS 1.6 mm Steel Head Gasket
* Motec M800 OEM ECU
* HKS Iridium Spark Plugs
* Jan Speed High Flow Sports Cat
* Alcon competition derived 240 mm high clamp mode, heavy duty clutch complete with Cera-metallic 6 paddle sprung centred drive plate
* HKS High Strength Head and Big End Bolts
* Alcon Mono6 Brake Kit incorporating Monobloc 6 pot road caliper with 343 mm curved vein Disc on a Aluminium mounting bell assembly with Ferodo DS2500 brake pads
* Ralliart Aero Mirrors
* Carbon Fibre Front Lip Spoiler
* Carbon Fibre "Sharks Tooth" Rear Vortex Generator
* PIAA High Performance Light and Wiper Upgrade
* Gloss Black Team Dynamics Lightweight Alloy Wheels
All I hear is a cash register going "Duh-Ching!" "Duh-Ching!"
And its DUH, not CHA-CHING in this case because with the wide variety of dometics, ultra high quality parts in the US and UK, it'd be crazy to spend the money on those parts. Good? Yes. Bought ON an FQ400 WITH a warranty? better
Spend that kind of money on domestic stuff, and you'll be kicking butt in no time.
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I think what he's trying to do is just get the performance of an FQ-400 (power, handling & braking). I don't think he trying to build a USDM FQ-400. He's just using the FQ-400 as the base or for reference.
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You can match the power of the FQ400 on the same dyno and its 30-130mph acceleration and have a much wider power band by simply remapping a IX with an exhaust and working the stock airbox.
The best FQ model kept standard is the IX FQ360 because it has a much wider power band than the FQ400. Engine mods are basically a reflash, exhaust with high flow cat, fuel pump, intercooler and turbo inlet pipes. The boost really drops at the top end, if you hold it up it makes FQ400 power again with much more flexibility.
Use US sourced parts, do it cheaper, do it better, don't copy expensive UK models. The FQ360 costs $72500 here, and apart from S-AYC and a few small electronic differences it is like your IX with bolt ons that are easily beaten.
If using FQ400 type parts you should be able to get +100 BHP up on its peak power with reliability and similar power band.
The best FQ model kept standard is the IX FQ360 because it has a much wider power band than the FQ400. Engine mods are basically a reflash, exhaust with high flow cat, fuel pump, intercooler and turbo inlet pipes. The boost really drops at the top end, if you hold it up it makes FQ400 power again with much more flexibility.
Use US sourced parts, do it cheaper, do it better, don't copy expensive UK models. The FQ360 costs $72500 here, and apart from S-AYC and a few small electronic differences it is like your IX with bolt ons that are easily beaten.
If using FQ400 type parts you should be able to get +100 BHP up on its peak power with reliability and similar power band.