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We were able to pick up 200-300 RPM in quicker spool on JP's killer tune! Big thanks to him for these awesome results! Here is the graph:
You will likely see Paul (ifarted2) at the track much more than I but he'll be making much more power as well! He's on the HorsepowerFreaks 67mm Turbo Kit with built internals
We're still finalizing the details of the production pieces in our twin in-tank fuel system but that will be available shortly!
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on a good tune it should last quite some time.
congrats on the numbers  .
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 You have never blew up a motor have you. It doesnt matter if you have a good tune or not if you push it past what it can handle it will give at one point.
My brother in law has a 911 twin turbo and they clam that stock block can hold 790whp well we put it to the test. We slaped on 2 40R at only 15 psi each we made 725whp and 815tq nice numbers but its only 15 psi so we retuned it to 18 psi for a daily driver setup car made 783whp and 837tq afr's where good all across the board. Car lasted 3 days he had a few highway runs and 2 passes at the strip. Car was doing great car ran 10.3 haveing traction issuses due to tires loseing grip every run.
So on the way home from the track not even getting on it the motor blew. And the car was tuned by a lemans crew leader class so we knew it wasnt the tune. After we pull out the block the rods where bent and the pistons where shot. 10 grand later and running 30psi 987whp and 1093tq car is running like a champ no issuses. But he still hasnt taken it to the track yet. I cant wait.
But long story short tuneing will not save your motor from giveing up.
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Dec 7, 2006, 04:24 PM
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cool man!! we will see what mine does tommorrow on the stock ecu, and 17k miles on stock clutch hehe.
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Dec 7, 2006, 04:27 PM
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Not really - that power is beyond the safety level of the internals. It will likely blow soon regardless of the tune.
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refer to my post below...
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Dec 7, 2006, 04:31 PM
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 You have never blew up a motor have you. It doesnt matter if you have a good tune or not if you push it past what it can handle it will give at one point.
My brother in law has a 911 twin turbo and they clam that stock block can hold 790whp well we put it to the test. We slaped on 2 40R at only 15 psi each we made 725whp and 815tq nice numbers but its only 15 psi so we retuned it to 18 psi for a daily driver setup car made 783whp and 837tq afr's where good all across the board. Car lasted 3 days he had a few highway runs and 2 passes at the strip. Car was doing great car ran 10.3 haveing traction issuses due to tires loseing grip every run.
So on the way home from the track not even getting on it the motor blew. And the car was tuned by a lemans crew leader class so we knew it wasnt the tune. After we pull out the block the rods where bent and the pistons where shot. 10 grand later and running 30psi 987whp and 1093tq car is running like a champ no issuses. But he still hasnt taken it to the track yet. I cant wait.
But long story short tuneing will not save your motor from giveing up.
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nope, I've never blown a motor and nowhere did I say a good tune will save any motor....
but I post because I've seen first hand what a stock evo motor can handle given a good owner and good tuning. I'll have the owner that i'm refering to post up.
Basically -> stock bottom end to 8500rpm on a 35R putting down 550+awhp.
the motor lasted all season perfectly fine, and it trapped 131.
refer to the blue evo seen in this shooutout video
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...28010f23c3.htm
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Dec 7, 2006, 04:34 PM
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Would you like me to start your next thread....
"I blew up my motor, because I think I know what im doing"
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Dec 7, 2006, 04:43 PM
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Would you like me to start your next thread....
"I blew up my motor, because I think I know what im doing"
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yes, because I said anywhere for people to go out and do this and that I know everything? I'm sorry for giving a real life example backing up the fact these motors can handle this power for more than 2 hours...
back on topic, once again Great numbers.
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Dec 7, 2006, 04:45 PM
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As long as we both understand that that motor wont last very long.
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Dec 7, 2006, 05:23 PM
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nope, I've never blown a motor and nowhere did I say a good tune will save any motor....
but I post because I've seen first hand what a stock evo motor can handle given a good owner and good tuning. I'll have the owner that i'm refering to post up.
Basically -> stock bottom end to 8500rpm on a 35R putting down 550+awhp.
the motor lasted all season perfectly fine, and it trapped 131.
refer to the blue evo seen in this shooutout video
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...28010f23c3.htm
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For every 1 you show me like that I can show you 5 that have failed trapping less than 130mph. It's like saying man Supras can handle 1000whp.....a few have done it most fail before that. Sean Ivey run's 550whp+ and has been all year it doesn't mean I think it's safe for a stock Evo motor to run that hp.
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Dec 7, 2006, 05:37 PM
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For every 1 you show me like that I can show you 5 that have failed trapping less than 130mph. It's like saying man Supras can handle 1000whp.....a few have done it most fail before that. Sean Ivey run's 550whp+ and has been all year it doesn't mean I think it's safe for a stock Evo motor to run that hp.
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It's not exactly 'safe', but I said it was doable given the fact the owner monitors the car very well. A few counts of knock and poof. But I'm saying its possible given proper care. Generally the failures are out of ignorance and not a lack of motor capability. Once you hit the 550whp area it requires dedication and isn't some "i'll get a tune and it will be set in any condition" deal.
the blue evo in the video lasted 4+ months and the motor is still running strong to this date. . member 4g63girl car.
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Dec 7, 2006, 05:48 PM
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yes, because I said anywhere for people to go out and do this and that I know everything? I'm sorry for giving a real life example backing up the fact these motors can handle this power for more than 2 hours...
back on topic, once again Great numbers.
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So his point is that if the motor can handle it for 2 hours..... its reliable!!! DUH
My opinion of reliability is that "most all 4g63 can handle BLANK whp" your story of your friend doesnt prove reliability, it proves he/she is the exception to the rule. Plz dont tell people thier motors can handle 550+ stock internals.
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I'm going to have to stop by your shop. It looks like you're doing some good things down there.
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I agree with Gleason.
Plenty of reasons why... But odviously you guys are impossible, so i won't even waste my time.
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Dec 7, 2006, 11:27 PM
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I agree with Gleason.
Plenty of reasons why... But odviously you guys are impossible, so i won't even waste my time.
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