 |
|
Aug 6, 2006, 04:02 PM
|
#31
|
|
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 1)
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 326
Drives: 2004 EVO SSL
|
There is a tread with someone running a 50 trim with alky making like 499whp and I think 403tq. I will be going with a 50 trim on my 2.3 stroker
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Aug 6, 2006, 08:25 PM
|
#32
|
|
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 4)
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: the 805
Posts: 402
Drives: a 440+ whp 03 evo 8, 06 pathfinder 4x4, 09 toyota highlander hybrid AWD
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Turbo13
I agree with couple other people that the 3071 is almost a waste of money for what you gain over the stock turbo.
|
I went from 325 whp to 390 whp with an atp 3071(the most conservitave 3071 out there) on 93 octane at 25 psi, same mods. for 2 g's, Do you think it's a waste of money for 65 whp? Sure I could have taken the stock turbo farther, but it cost more money, for more power on the stock turbo. I could have gotten to 350 whp on stock for about $1,000 more(thats 1/2 way towards my turbo kit.) I would rather be at 6 or 7 tenths on a 3071 than 10/10ths on a stocker!
just my 2 cents.
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Aug 6, 2006, 10:28 PM
|
#33
|
|
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 17)
Join Date: May 2004
Location: S. Florida
Posts: 1,545
Drives: '03 BBY Evo 8
|
If you call Buschur and get a 20G-9-5 and a stage 3 head, you will be spending the same money as a 3071/3076 kit and have awesome spool up and monster torque in a stock-looking car!
Call Buschur and talk to them about your options.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian_H
I got mine off ebay, it's totally the same. I don't know anything about cars but I can tell you its totally the same, butt dyno felt huge results and my friends brothers uncles cousin runs one in a fast honda.
|
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Aug 7, 2006, 07:36 AM
|
#34
|
|
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 1)
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Mesoamerica
Posts: 3,468
Drives: 2004 RS
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by walkedu
I also have been thinking about which set up to run? I'm in the buisness of making my Evo the fastes AutoXing machine i can. With a lot of stop and go's, 90 degree turns and such, i'm thinking the 3071 is the better turbo in my case. hope i'm right!
|
You may be better served by a TME 6.5 turbo, if your business is really tight and twisty. Then add a set of GSC 264's, and you should be good to go right now. For the parking cone scene...stay away from the bigger and laggier 30 series. Go TME!
__________________
Vishnu XEDE & camgears-Greddy 720's-ported Green-HKS 280/272-Forge WGA-AMS LICP-DC DP-Magnaflow Ti-Ralliart TS-Tomei Thermokiller - SSAC O2 - BR8ES-Nissei IC--SS clutch line-Endless(f) /Hawk(r) - WALBRO 255-ITG filter-Motul-KOYO radiator-SAMCO intake hose-UEGO-Autometer-Kartboys-Authority SS-MR DV.
DLL: 389WHP/25PSI on 93( non-corrected@3300' altitude). (No dynos in the jungle! Fortunately, there are carnivorous toads that feed on bats).
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Jul 24, 2008, 02:29 PM
|
#35
|
|
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 3)
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 241
Drives: 2006 EVOix and 300zxTT
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwStDeVo
i am in the market for a new turbo kit. i live in a high elevation area, which is the reason i am looking at these two kits. the other turbo im looking at is the 20g, but i will probably start a new thread depending on how this turns out. my questions are:
1) how much power would both turbos make on 91oct and alky?
2) which is the better turbo or more valuable turbo?
the reason i am asking everyone for their opinions is the fact that after researching the 3076, i found most people do not recommend it and say its a waste. i was wondering if the 3071 can make as much power but spool faster.
|
So its been quite a while since you last posted. So which way did you end up going? I read this thread very carefully and i say that for your Street only, and pump gas running EVO, the GT3071 would be the best bang for the buck. Especially if you add some HKS 272 cams to go with it. Your spool up would be stock-like with a very decent gain in HP. The 3076 is quite laggey comparatively and does not run well in the modest 22PSI 91octane tune that EVOs run. The 3076 comes alive at boost over 25psi, but 25psi is NOT recommended for 91 octane. So I would agree with the GT3071R with upgraded cams for street tune on pump gas. If you were going for drag racing or running race fuel then HTA3076 would be the way to go, but not in your case...
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Jul 31, 2008, 05:03 AM
|
#36
|
|
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 0)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: South Africa
Posts: 302
Drives: EVOLUTION IX
|
.
Very interesting Post...
Given the contraints of:
21-24psi boost
91/92Oct Fuel
5000+ Ft above sealevel
There is actually no doubt in my mind that either a GT3071R or 50Trim is the Turbo for the Job...
A GT3071R on a 2.3L stroker in my mind would be an amazing combination for pump gas and 22psi .
.
__________________
___________________________________________
# Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX; Gruppe-S 2.3L Stroker Kit; PTE 6262 CBB; Tomei Pro-cams; PTE 880's; Warlbro + MSD in-line fuel pumps; Cooling Mist Alky Inj; Spark Tech COP; (Stock ECU)...unleashed by SHIVA Tuning - Custom fabrication & install by No Sweat Racing!
Mitsubishi Evolution Registry of South Africa
http://evox.forumup.co.za/
aka: MR_EVO
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Jul 31, 2008, 06:37 AM
|
#37
|
|
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 8)
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Spring Lake, NC // VBC, Iraq
Posts: 358
Drives: GG IX MR, '09 Toyota Yaris ONYX Edition
|
That 3071, especially on a stroker, will choke after 5500 RPM. It won't spool but maybe 500 RPM faster than the 3076. The 3076 will not start choking till high 6,000's on that stroker. I think that's something to take into account.
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Jul 31, 2008, 11:18 AM
|
#38
|
|
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 0)
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Glendale Heights, IL
Posts: 223
Drives: 1993 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 2 (left hand drive conversion)
|
For such a high alt and crappy 91 gas, you want to run the largest turbo you can tollerate for lag. Why? Because larger turbos don't create as much heat for the charge air temps, and can make up for thin air with more CFM. Also make sure you have at least 272 cams.
__________________
9.99 @ 150.56 mph
On all season tires & straight E85
9.8 @ 147.8 mph
Low boost easy pass on slicks & straight E85
Second Place awd Dyno pull @ Shootout '09
First Place, Subaru vs. Mitsubishi Showdown '06
First Place, Import Wars # 6 '06
Second Place, NOPI St. Louis '06
Semi-finalist, NOPI Finals '06
Second Place, Shootout '05
Second Place, Subaru vs, Mitsubishi Showdown '05
Third Place, Shootout '07
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Jul 31, 2008, 12:53 PM
|
#39
|
|
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 34)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Riverview, Fl
Posts: 138
Drives: 2006 Evo 9 MR
|
I have a BR 3071 cast mani kit. It made 382 whp on the TTP MD dyno with basic bolt on's and FP4 cams.
This is on 93 pump with no meth. My car is driven to work every day and never see's race gas etc...
Would I like more power, sure, but I would not want any more lag. If I upgraded for pump gas the bigest I would go is probably a 50 trim so I don't loose any more bottom end tq.
__________________
06 EVO MR
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Jul 31, 2008, 02:53 PM
|
#40
|
|
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 86)
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tampa
Posts: 1,936
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboColt
I have a BR 3071 cast mani kit. It made 382 whp on the TTP MD dyno with basic bolt on's and FP4 cams.
This is on 93 pump with no meth. My car is driven to work every day and never see's race gas etc...
Would I like more power, sure, but I would not want any more lag. If I upgraded for pump gas the bigest I would go is probably a 50 trim so I don't loose any more bottom end tq.
|
How much boost Glen? and what tq? I will be dialing in my 3071 on the evo1 here real soon. just about finished with the ethanol injector project.
__________________
early evo nut rockin
evo1 and evo 4
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Jul 31, 2008, 03:06 PM
|
#41
|
|
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 25)
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MO.
Posts: 526
Drives: Mountain Bike
|
Why not do the fp3065
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Jul 31, 2008, 06:21 PM
|
#42
|
|
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 3)
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 241
Drives: 2006 EVOix and 300zxTT
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by MO_EVO8
Why not do the fp3065
|
Because the HTA3065 is quite a bit more expensive than the GT3071R ball bearing turbo. For the same price of the HTA3065 you can get a GT3071R and HKS272 MIVEC cams + injectors and fuel pump. That is why I went with the GT3071R...
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Jul 31, 2008, 08:35 PM
|
#43
|
|
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 12)
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,554
Drives: 03 Evo
|
Holy thread revival! TWO years! but that's okay, since I have always been interested in 3071 vs. 50trim vs. 3076 on pump/race gas/stroker combos. Greatgonzer, did you ever end up getting the ATP kit? I replied to your post on Camtuning but you never replied.
__________________
Uuri
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Jul 31, 2008, 08:55 PM
|
#44
|
|
Evolving Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 3)
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 241
Drives: 2006 EVOix and 300zxTT
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by hokiruu
Holy thread revival! TWO years! but that's okay, since I have always been interested in 3071 vs. 50trim vs. 3076 on pump/race gas/stroker combos. Greatgonzer, did you ever end up getting the ATP kit? I replied to your post on Camtuning but you never replied.
|
Oh sorry. I have not checked www.camtuning.com for quite some time and I dont think that I have that site setup to instant email me when someone responds. Actually I have placed my order for the turbo kit, but that was 8 weeks ago and still no turbo kit yet. They told me that they are pretty backordered at the moment... The wait is killing me. And of course Cameron is going to tune the whole thing once installed... 
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
Jul 31, 2008, 09:17 PM
|
#45
|
|
Evolved Member
Personal Sales Rating: ( 12)
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,554
Drives: 03 Evo
|
Well, what I said was, that is one of the most hated kits on the market. I guess you are pretty sure it's what you want though...
__________________
Uuri
|
|
Offline
|
|
|
|
|
Tags
|
3071, 3076, evo, full, gt3071, gt3076, hta, pte, race, sale, scroll, td05, turbo, twin, vs  |
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
| | 
|
