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Old Oct 23, 2009, 01:45 PM   #1
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HTA86, 2.1 liter, all BR parts.... big power on E85

Brian, celica2EVO, has changed his set up. He's ran the last two years on our Stage 3, 2 liter and ran quite a few 9 second passes. The last time the car was on the track he ran 9.8x at 149 mph and when he was loading it on the trailer he heard the dreaded "knocking" noise and assumed it was a rod bearing.

Brian pulled the engine out and brought it to us complete with the trans still bolted to it.

The decision was made to try the new 2.1 liter engine I had just put into my RS. Upon taking his trans off his old engine we found the actual knocking noise, ended up it was nothing more than the flywheel bolts being lose. Keeping a great attitude, Brian just sold off the old parts (which looked like new after 2 years) and continued on with the plans for the 2.1.

The build looks like this:

BR Stage 3, 2.1 liter with Manley pistons and GRP rods.
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ID2000 injectors
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Bushwhacker Stage 1 trans
Tilton clutch
Sunrise E85 for fuel

We built the complete engine, Brian put it in the car himself and did a great job. The car had not been started before today. It was pushed off the trailer, I loaded in a new program for the injectors and E85 and it fired instantly. It ran flawlessly from that point on. These new injectors are just freaking incredible. Every glitch that was ever felt with the cars before that I blamed on ignition, AEM EMS issues etc., are GONE with the ID2000's.

Anyway, car was started and loaded on the dyno. Within 3 pulls the power was way over 500 and I knew that was only a start.

The car was tuned first on low boost, 31 psi and the power was within 2 whp of what it made previously at 40'ish psi on Q16. Check out this dyno sheet at 31 psi:



Then we turned up the boost to a peak of 38.26 psi and power rose easily to 665 and 510 ft lbs of boost, easily beating the previous combination which was at over 40 psi of boost.

Here is the dyno sheet at 38 psi:



Last is the dyno sheet of the 2 liter VS the 2.1 liter that is in the car now. The difference everywhere is fantastic but the biggest change is the low/mid range. Where the power/torque cross at 5250 rpm there is a 140 whp gain in hp and torque, THAT is something you can feel for sure when driving around on the street and is going to make this car a lot more fun to drive than it was. Check out the comparison:

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Old Oct 23, 2009, 02:00 PM   #2
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That's incredible guys! Congrats!

What compression is the engine?

Those mid range gains are sick! It would be even better for the track too. Probably he will need less revs to launch the car thus making it easier I guess!
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Old Oct 23, 2009, 02:03 PM   #3
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Wow, very impressive. That 2.1L is calling my name. lol

I would go with the froward facing manifold but i really dont wanna sacrifice a/c on a DD. Already did it once and here in texas its not the brightest idea in the world. lol

Good work though, always impressed with BR's cars..
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Old Oct 23, 2009, 02:12 PM   #4
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Compression is 10:1 compared to the old engine which was 8.8:1. The mid range power gains are overly impressive. I'm shocked actually.
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wow...serious sh!t right there! BR
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Old Oct 23, 2009, 03:03 PM   #6
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Wow !! The gains from the previous setup are huge.

Great Work Buschur !!
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Old Oct 23, 2009, 03:18 PM   #7
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Lol Dave posting from Jrods account thats one to get around that ban.
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Old Oct 23, 2009, 03:24 PM   #8
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Did this car have the forward-facing turbo kit before, or a 'regular' tubular buschur setup?

Midrange gains are retarded. Way awesome. Looks like an awesome combo for improving an already lethal setup
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Whats the difference in gains between the BR tubular mani and the forward facing mani. BR needs to figure out a way to keep a/c with the forward facing mani then it would be perfect.
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Compression is 10:1 compared to the old engine which was 8.8:1. The mid range power gains are overly impressive. I'm shocked actually.
Iam really liking this 2.1L deal
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Does the 10:1 compression and running e85 have any effect on the spool up?
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This is so sick, ive had the thought of 2.1 destroke in my head for sometime now and i think this just set it in stone haha, i wonder how it would be on something smaller like a regular 35R or even an FP RED??
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2.1 & e85 seem like the way to go..that hth86 is a beast also
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Old Oct 23, 2009, 07:13 PM   #15
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First off, Dave, Thanks a million again! All the parts work together like they should! And it helps I have the best tuner, PERIOD!!!

And thanks to everyone else for the comments! The car is going out tonight but wont see full throttle as its on Hoosier QTPs and the roads are damp. lol

Thanks again as always Dave!
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