CBRD

iTrader: (60)

we just had a client come to us this week for a nice install..

was an evo ix 45K miles.... had cobb stage 1 flash... catback and intake... at 18psi it baselined at 230/228 at the wheels..

we installed some 2 piece PF front rotors, rear rotors, lines etc... and then did some power mods..

He had the tomei turbo in his possession.... we took a peak at it.. turbine looked nice, and so did the comp cover.. and it came with all the banjo bolts etc.... extremely well packaged..

we added an invidia o2 housing, invidia catback, resonated test pipe, perrin EBCS, removed the cobb AP, added 780 injectors, our CBRD fmic and LICP, and threw her on the dyno...

final results...

321whp/305 wtq at 26 psi...

very very dissapointing.... boost was nice flat at peak torque with about 3 psi of taper.. timing was good, afr normal... just couldnt get any power out of it...

ill post plots later...

i was dissapointed after seeing how awesome the comp cover looked on the thing....

we will be switching it out to something else soon and making some good power.


here ya go!

the dyno plot!

base runs were on the cobb stage 1 flash



cheers

cb

AWD Motorsports

iTrader: (211)

Im not really suprised.. I havent seen anything exciting out of these turbos other than appearance and packaging.. Atleast compared to what else is out there now from FP and Blouch..

Mike

CBRD

iTrader: (60)

yeah we are going to be putting a BBK on it and doing a back to back test...




we spent over a year developing and testing our BBK.... and it took us a bit to find the right combination...

the tomei looks like ur basic 20G with a different turbine.

cb

Kracka

iTrader: (49)

Thats dissapointing The price was right and the included install kit was a really nice bonus (hint hint CBRD and FP)!

SOEuro

iTrader: (29)

thanks for sheading some light on this turbo,some guys down south(FL) have been having some decent luck with it but nothing spectacular. Coming alot of other vendors on here(especially on that sells a direct competitor to the Tomei ARMS) i would call BS....but your shop seems like a no BS kinda place

thanks for the testing,im curious to see how the BBK will stack up to it on the dyno

scheides

iTrader: (10)

Can't wait to see the graphs, man what a let-down. I'm a huge fan of the BBK but it sucks to see this because I know others will get it just because of the price/name/etc. I'm excited to see the back-to-back. Part of me hopes its an issue with the car, but then again another part of me wants to see the BBK kick the tomei's ****.

Thanks for the straight-up info Chad. Maybe you should get your hands on an HTA-green and do a real back-to-back-to-back while you're at it. I know that's the other major player in this category right now (unless you went way too far and added MAP's SST into the mix).

Cali2MDevo8

iTrader: (22)

Lets look on the brightside........it sure is pretty sitting in that engine bay!!! The temps around here are nice and cool today as well. Not humid at all. Those #'s suck for a "semi-stock appearing turbo" on Chads dyno at 26psi.

CBRD

iTrader: (60)

it had the big garrett core 3.8" fmic, so heatsoak wasnt an issue...

granted he is 100whp up over his before graph!

we did a pressure test and checked everything...

honestly i dont think its a great turbo...

cb

id gladly tune an FP HTA green, we've never knocked fp's products... they work well, we just do our own thing!

halfnhalf83

iTrader: (21)

id like to see the dyno plots.... very sad results tho! hmmm

evo003

iTrader: (3)

I was looking into getting a new turbo and have been really eyeing up the bbk full. Then I started seeing everyone talk about and sell the tomei so it would be real interesting to see a back to back. CBRD, which cams do you recommend running with the BBK full? I'm looking to be at around 450 whp on a dyno jet with as much torque as possible with a stock like spool. I'm leaning heavily to the BBK right now. Let me know what you think.

roger smith

iTrader: (4)

When you talk about power are you talking about HP?
I know FP are made for up top power.

If you're looking for HP then yes, you'll probably get disappointed with Tomei.

bambooi

iTrader: (6)

You sell your own brand turbo, so it would be good for you to get the customer to buy your turbo ($). Unless you post the full logs showing everything, then your back to back test will be worth a grain of salt. I understand if you would not want to do this, and most tuners probably wouldn't, but I just couldn't believe your information due to the conflict of interest.
I have no interest in either turbo, but I just wanted to point this fact out to other members who are interested.

AWD Motorsports

iTrader: (211)

99% of people look for HP with a Turbo Upgrade.. I dont think too many people will spend 1700.00 to swap a IX turbo and make less HP..

Its a combination of Both... The RED for example will make the most PEAK HP yet will be laggier than a Green or BBK.. There is always a tradeoff for HP or Spool..

Mike

aka.ralliart15

iTrader: (20)

Something seems off to me, I have not been disappointed thus far with the TOMEI ARMS turbo, I made 405whp on 93 octane 26psi with leaking valves, I'll have more results up soon when the head is fixed....and the person who bought diirks turbo made 420whp on 24 psi, I think there might be another issue here.

I'm not knocking on you guys because you are a great company but I don't see any data just words. I'm sure you might post a graph up later but this is far from a crappy turbo, again no disrespect to anyone just my opinion.

94AWDcoupe

iTrader: (125)

this is a BS thread. sorry but its always best to look at successful results for comparisons sake. there is yet only one successful Tomie turbo results. the guy was making good power on the FP green at 455whp. then he bolted in the Tomie and made another 25+ whp. those are the results to look for. hell a resonated test pipe can pinch 40 hp on setups.

this is just a decent vender who is happy to post unsuccessful results of a competitors turbo to make the one he sells look good. The BBK by the way has horrible track results that speak for themselves. I think the highest trap on a BBK is 123. nothing short of pathetic.