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Old May 13, 2009, 06:40 AM   #31
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Please do yourself a GIANT favor and go with a 4" intake pipe. Use the 3-4" reducer on the maf. I've seen good results with the switch. At your power levels, the results can only be amplified.
What sort of gains have you seen and on what type of setup? I'm going to be running a 3" intake w/ 4"-3" reducer on the turbo for my setup as well and would like to know if there is more power to be had w/ the 4" intake. I'm also wondering how much it will throw off the MAS readings. The only pipe I have found so far is Dejon Tool's:
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Old May 13, 2009, 06:50 AM   #32
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I'm not convinced there will be gains either way...if you're sucking air through a straw it doesn't matter which end of it you have the kinked.
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Old May 13, 2009, 10:00 AM   #33
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very nice....this is the turbo i am purchasing for my build.
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Old May 13, 2009, 10:29 AM   #34
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I'm not convinced there will be gains either way...if you're sucking air through a straw it doesn't matter which end of it you have the kinked.

I think the point 4kin boost was making is that by puting the reducer on the MAF it will allow you to run a 4" pipe to the turbo instead of the 3" pipe you are currenty using. This will flow substantially more air than the 3" pipe will even thought he Maf is 3"(roughly 44% more). I think AMS tested it and found some retarded amount of power by switching on a high HP car. I want to say something like 60whp.
It works on the same priciple as you moving to a larger rail to gain more fuel, even though the outlets of the pumps are super small as compaired to the rest of the system. Increasing the size of everything after the restriction lessens the effect of the restriction.
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Have you thought of trying a DI or wilson V2 manifold?
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I think the point 4kin boost was making is that by puting the reducer on the MAF it will allow you to run a 4" pipe to the turbo instead of the 3" pipe you are currenty using. This will flow substantially more air than the 3" pipe will even thought he Maf is 3"(roughly 44% more). I think AMS tested it and found some retarded amount of power by switching on a high HP car. I want to say something like 60whp.
It works on the same priciple as you moving to a larger rail to gain more fuel, even though the outlets of the pumps are super small as compaired to the rest of the system. Increasing the size of everything after the restriction lessens the effect of the restriction.
got a link to their findings? I wish this were true but I'm skeptical
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Very sick car mellon!

Have you thought of trying a DI or wilson V2 manifold?
I thought about it but thus far I'm not having any problem finding power, just fuel
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You got a graph going to 8.5k rpm or more? I see in your videos you are going that high but not on the graph.
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no, I usually shift at 8500 and hang it out to 9k at the most in 4th to cross the line under power.
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Old May 20, 2009, 11:32 PM   #42
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What DV are you running? I'm putting together my car right now with an HTA82 and stock ECU, and I want to make sure it doesn't have any boost leaks. Thanks.
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What DV are you running? I'm putting together my car right now with an HTA82 and stock ECU, and I want to make sure it doesn't have any boost leaks. Thanks.
Pretty sure he is running the APS, same here
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Mellon...you can pick up power from the 3"-4" pipe. Especially with an S cover on your turbocharger.

With an angle more than 7 degrees you get flow separation...causing turbulence. Turbulence slows air speed (velocity) and hurts your compressor efficiency.

The shape of the tube before and after the restriction HIGHLY affects the amount of air that you can get through it. TRUST ME... I made 90hp through a 20mm restrictor on a 600cc F4i. I spent countless hours testing diffusors and bellmouths around the restrictor.

IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. You own a dyno... go test it... find out for yourself.
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