Which Security System to choose?

EvolNinja · May 24, 2009, 10:08 PM

I've been thinking about Viper 5701 alarm and since I'm removing some damage body parts to install new ones once it arrived. I went to Dealer Cost Audio and found another brand, Python 1090 R/B. They seem to be very close in price. Anyone have any suggestions on the two? Here is the website to it.
http://www.dealercostcaraudio.com/carsecurity.aspx

SpoolnEvo · May 25, 2009, 09:23 AM

do both brands have the vibration sensors on body pannels, wheels etc? and the key fob that tells you if something was touched?

EvolNinja · May 25, 2009, 10:30 AM

The Python security system has visual and audible output for notification so I'm assuming it will beep at you if the vehicle is being touch or broke into

MRCole · May 26, 2009, 01:38 AM

both system's come with the shock sensor, not a tilt sensor. That is optional and sold separately.

EvolNinja · May 28, 2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MRCole

both system's come with the shock sensor, not a tilt sensor. That is optional and sold separately.

Isn't the shock sensor better than the tilt sensor? Anyways, I have decided to go with the Python instead.

Hmmm Python vs Viper. I think the Python would deff. kick ass in real life serpant

MRCole · May 28, 2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvolNinja

Isn't the shock sensor better than the tilt sensor? Anyways, I have decided to go with the Python instead.

Hmmm Python vs Viper. I think the Python would deff. kick ass in real life serpant

No, a tilt sensor measures if you car is tilted more than 10 degrees or so. Like if someone was jacking your car to steal your rims.

EvolNinja · May 29, 2009, 06:51 AM

But wouldn't the shock sensor be able to trip if someone is jacking my car up? I think I still have the tilt sensor from the remote start I installed on my wife's car that I may be able to use if the shock sensor is not going to do the job. Hope it's still around somewhere in the house.

majestic* · May 29, 2009, 07:16 AM

Viper, Python, Clifford, Hornet, etc... are all made by Directed Electronics... DEI... it's all the same, just different badging and slightly different remotes and brains. Otherwise, same.

www.directed.com

I've had both Viper and Python... they're both good units... just be careful with the remotes... that's the first thing I've seen go on any two way paging units.

As far as sensors are concerned, either one will come with a shock sensor only. Tilt, glass break, proximity sensors are all extras. A shock sensor is an impact sensor. It will not detect someone jacking your car if they do not generate enough vibration to set it off. The shock sensor's purpose is to warn you if someone has hit or bumped your vehicle while you were away. Also, depending on how it's sensitivity is set, if someone is attempting to steal your car and breaking glass or jimmying your door to get it open, it would warn them away or set the alarm off.

Tilt sensors work from 1 to 3 degrees of tilt. It is installed in a location that is as parrallel to the vehicle's surface as possible so that a minimal amount of tilt is required to set it off.

Glass break sensors are a microphone placed on the dash somewhere to detect the sound of glass breaking and that would set the alarm off

Proximity sensors are microwave sensors that allow you to set a warn away field disturbance and a full alarm mode field disturbance. Mainly designed for convertibles so that no one can reach in and steal something. These are sensitive to hot and cold climates and affect the field of both zones... so they can be tricky to set up.

Hope this helps,

Nick

EvolNinja · May 29, 2009, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by majestic*

Viper, Python, Clifford, Hornet, etc... are all made by Directed Electronics... DEI... it's all the same, just different badging and slightly different remotes and brains. Otherwise, same.

www.directed.com

I've had both Viper and Python... they're both good units... just be careful with the remotes... that's the first thing I've seen go on any two way paging units.

As far as sensors are concerned, either one will come with a shock sensor only. Tilt, glass break, proximity sensors are all extras. A shock sensor is an impact sensor. It will not detect someone jacking your car if they do not generate enough vibration to set it off. The shock sensor's purpose is to warn you if someone has hit or bumped your vehicle while you were away. Also, depending on how it's sensitivity is set, if someone is attempting to steal your car and breaking glass or jimmying your door to get it open, it would warn them away or set the alarm off.

Tilt sensors work from 1 to 3 degrees of tilt. It is installed in a location that is as parrallel to the vehicle's surface as possible so that a minimal amount of tilt is required to set it off.

Glass break sensors are a microphone placed on the dash somewhere to detect the sound of glass breaking and that would set the alarm off

Proximity sensors are microwave sensors that allow you to set a warn away field disturbance and a full alarm mode field disturbance. Mainly designed for convertibles so that no one can reach in and steal something. These are sensitive to hot and cold climates and affect the field of both zones... so they can be tricky to set up.

Hope this helps,

Nick

Nick, it does helps a lot but I'm not sure what you mean by the remote. Can you explain that a little further? Thanks

16vTAWD · May 29, 2009, 02:48 PM

He means the remote break on the the two ways because they are usual big and the screens on the lcd remotes crack from being dropped/sat on.

majestic* · May 30, 2009, 02:31 AM

That's exactly it... the warranty issues I've seen is people cracking the screen easily or breaking the antenna on the remote off... it's not cheap to replace that remote. It does come with a belt clip and you can flip the belt clip over to protect the screen when not in use... I never had an issue with mine but I always took care of it. If you have a lot of keys on your keychain and throw your keys around or there is more than one person driving the vehicle you have to be carefull is all.

I'm assuming you're talking about the 50.5x style units... older model. The difference in the remotes themselves is the python has rubber buttons and a carbon looking remote case. The viper has more plastic feeling buttons (which I like better) and a blue case on the remote. Identical screens though.

If you're talking about the brand new stuff from DEI the remote are more durable and the antenna is built in rather than external. The units again are very similar... the viper remotes are thinner and sleeker, half grey and black, the cliffords are a little chunkier and all silver, the pythons I haven't seen yet but look to be the same size as cliffords and are all black.

Hope this helps,

Nick

EvolNinja · Jun 1, 2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by majestic*

That's exactly it... the warranty issues I've seen is people cracking the screen easily or breaking the antenna on the remote off... it's not cheap to replace that remote. It does come with a belt clip and you can flip the belt clip over to protect the screen when not in use... I never had an issue with mine but I always took care of it. If you have a lot of keys on your keychain and throw your keys around or there is more than one person driving the vehicle you have to be carefull is all.

I'm assuming you're talking about the 50.5x style units... older model. The difference in the remotes themselves is the python has rubber buttons and a carbon looking remote case. The viper has more plastic feeling buttons (which I like better) and a blue case on the remote. Identical screens though.

If you're talking about the brand new stuff from DEI the remote are more durable and the antenna is built in rather than external. The units again are very similar... the viper remotes are thinner and sleeker, half grey and black, the cliffords are a little chunkier and all silver, the pythons I haven't seen yet but look to be the same size as cliffords and are all black.

Hope this helps,

Nick

Yeah, it does help. Thanks for all your helps guys

I know this security has the ability to start the car too but I'm not sure if I want it to have remote start. I guess I'll have to wait until it gets here and I'll decide. I know I always put it on Neutral and put on the E-brake every time I shut it off.

MRCole · Jun 1, 2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvolNinja

Yeah, it does help. Thanks for all your helps guys

I know this security has the ability to start the car too but I'm not sure if I want it to have remote start. I guess I'll have to wait until it gets here and I'll decide. I know I always put it on Neutral and put on the E-brake every time I shut it off.

Level surface i never put it in gear, as i have remote start. Even on slight hills I've left it in neutral with the ebrake on and haven't had a problem for over 3 years.