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Aug 21, 2009, 10:07 PM
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Kelford 280's ???? should I do it....
I bought Kelford 280's about 4 months and still haven't put them in. LOL I'm so lazy.
Anyway, I have been pondering if I should trade them in for some Kelford 272's instead.
Have any of you tried the 280's if so how much power loss was there and where did it occur?
What was you power range did power fall of at all?
I don't plan on going past 8000 rpm at all, do you think that it is a waste to use this cam if I am only going to 8000?
I am about to put a MasterPower T61 on the car. Motor is stock.
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Aug 27, 2009, 07:55 PM
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04' GSR intake, 3" TBE, BOV, 9 turbo, MBC, ECUflash&EVOscan (most fun to drive)
91' Eclipse GSX 4G64 MasterPower T64
00' Turbo stang 10.xx's (scariest to drive)
92' Suzuki Swift GTi NX direct port kit on slicks!!!! 12.70's
93' VR4 stock turbos exteme weight reduction 11.xx's
00' Camaro SS Heads/cam 12bolt on Boggarts 10.xx's
82' Firebird back half race car 400ci turbo God in the works!!! I can't wait!!
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Sep 14, 2009, 10:51 AM
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I'm about to get 280s, but I'm only doin the 280 cause I'm gettin a bigger turbo soon, If you plan on keeping the stock turbo you should probably go with the 272s.
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Sep 14, 2009, 11:26 AM
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he already said he was going to go with a bigger turbo  do you plan on doing valve springs and retainers with the cams ? whats your goal for the car ive never ran one of those turbos myself but i no a few people from the honda fourms that dident have the best luck with them.
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Man. I can get somebody to suck your dick for some parts if you want. I love the manifold and the shifter relocated back. Being a tall guy I have thought about fabricating something like that to where it sits about 6-8" back.
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Sep 14, 2009, 06:15 PM
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im pondering the same question. should i go with 272 or 280s. im building the motor now, and plan on upgrading the turbo after i break it in.
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Sep 14, 2009, 09:40 PM
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he already said he was going to go with a bigger turbo |
oh yeah haha whoops
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Sep 18, 2009, 10:53 PM
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I made an equal length manifold and decided to use a Masterpower T64 instead, I have a few laying around so what the heck. The T64 spools up 30+psi at 4700 on my 1g dsm so it should work great on the EVO. Also I have springs and retainers.
I am just pondering if I should even use the 280's. I don't plan on turning more than 8000rpm so I don't know if I will be out of the powerband for these cams. I searched and searched for some dyno info on these and can't find any.
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91' Eclipse GSX 4G64 MasterPower T64
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92' Suzuki Swift GTi NX direct port kit on slicks!!!! 12.70's
93' VR4 stock turbos exteme weight reduction 11.xx's
00' Camaro SS Heads/cam 12bolt on Boggarts 10.xx's
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Sep 18, 2009, 11:00 PM
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272's cause i have some for sale 
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Sep 18, 2009, 11:07 PM
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Is this car going to be a DD or just a weekend warrior? Mine was a DD so i went conservative and went the 272 route, good idle, noticeable power gains, idle is manageable...
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Sep 18, 2009, 11:09 PM
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I am not concered with drivability its my wifes' car LOL
I just want the highest AVERAGE hp I can get.
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04' GSR intake, 3" TBE, BOV, 9 turbo, MBC, ECUflash&EVOscan (most fun to drive)
91' Eclipse GSX 4G64 MasterPower T64
00' Turbo stang 10.xx's (scariest to drive)
92' Suzuki Swift GTi NX direct port kit on slicks!!!! 12.70's
93' VR4 stock turbos exteme weight reduction 11.xx's
00' Camaro SS Heads/cam 12bolt on Boggarts 10.xx's
82' Firebird back half race car 400ci turbo God in the works!!! I can't wait!!
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Sep 18, 2009, 11:26 PM
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do you have springs and retainers?
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Oct 4, 2009, 07:18 PM
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If you do then make sure to pay close attention to your piston to valve clearence and your valve stem height location. Don't ask me how I know =(
A quick read of the FP 5R cams will show you what to look for. You need to be 100% sure of all of your clearences. With the 272's you can prety much install and go.
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Oct 5, 2009, 05:05 PM
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Thank you any specific things to look for??
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04' GSR intake, 3" TBE, BOV, 9 turbo, MBC, ECUflash&EVOscan (most fun to drive)
91' Eclipse GSX 4G64 MasterPower T64
00' Turbo stang 10.xx's (scariest to drive)
92' Suzuki Swift GTi NX direct port kit on slicks!!!! 12.70's
93' VR4 stock turbos exteme weight reduction 11.xx's
00' Camaro SS Heads/cam 12bolt on Boggarts 10.xx's
82' Firebird back half race car 400ci turbo God in the works!!! I can't wait!!
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Oct 5, 2009, 08:08 PM
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Thank you any specific things to look for??
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Even though you are not running 5R cams pay close attention to the recommendations on this page as the 280's and 5R's have similarities in lift and duration. None of this should be taken lightly and don't put them in unless you are 100% sure.
http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...=Lancer-Engine
Best of Luck!
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Oct 7, 2009, 05:25 PM
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Ya I think I'll be selling them LOL and getting some kelford 272's
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04' GSR intake, 3" TBE, BOV, 9 turbo, MBC, ECUflash&EVOscan (most fun to drive)
91' Eclipse GSX 4G64 MasterPower T64
00' Turbo stang 10.xx's (scariest to drive)
92' Suzuki Swift GTi NX direct port kit on slicks!!!! 12.70's
93' VR4 stock turbos exteme weight reduction 11.xx's
00' Camaro SS Heads/cam 12bolt on Boggarts 10.xx's
82' Firebird back half race car 400ci turbo God in the works!!! I can't wait!!
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