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Old Mar 8, 2010, 03:18 PM   #1
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Speed Density - Wideband o2 Necessary?

I'm looking to have my car tuned with Speed Density here in the near future by GST and had a question regarding necessary hardware.

I plan on getting an EVO X 3 bar MAP Sensor and a GM IAT Sensor / Bung (3/8" NPT). Do I need a Wideband O2 Sensor as well?

I also plan on putting the IAT in my stock UICP, is that okay?

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Old Mar 8, 2010, 03:23 PM   #2
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I'm looking to have my car tuned with Speed Density here in the near future by GST and had a question regarding necessary hardware.

I plan on getting an EVO X 3 bar MAP Sensor and a GM IAT Sensor / Bung (3/8" NPT). Do I need a Wideband O2 Sensor as well?

I also plan on putting the IAT in my stock UICP, is that okay?

in my opinion yes. you can monitor your AFR all the time and also gives the tuner 2 widebands to read from when they hook up the one on the dyno. me personally a wbo2 is a must.
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Old Mar 8, 2010, 03:24 PM   #3
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in my opinion yes. you can monitor your AFR all the time and also gives the tuner 2 widebands to read from when they hook up the one on the dyno. me personally a wbo2 is a must.
Just trying to make sure my expenses are justified before I make a purchase.

I don't cut corners so I'll probably be getting one.

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Old Mar 8, 2010, 03:24 PM   #4
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I'm looking to have my car tuned with Speed Density here in the near future by GST and had a question regarding necessary hardware.

I plan on getting an EVO X 3 bar MAP Sensor and a GM IAT Sensor / Bung (3/8" NPT). Do I need a Wideband O2 Sensor as well?

I also plan on putting the IAT in my stock UICP, is that okay?

i would get one, they arent all that expensive and its a great idea to always keep an eye on things. if something goes wrong it will definitely tell you. thats just my opinion though, i just like to be safe

IAT in the UICP is perfect.
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as for the AIT in the stock uicp sure why not.
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Just trying to make sure my expenses are justified before I make a purchase.

I don't cut corners so I'll probably be getting one.

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AEM UEGO or innovate lc1
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Just trying to make sure my expenses are justified before I make a purchase.

I don't cut corners so I'll probably be getting one.

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i like my innovate lc-1 with xd-16 gauge. another good one is aem. thoughs too wbo2's is all i would ever use. there is so many to choose from but IMO innovate or aem
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Are the Wideband O2 and the EVO X 3 bar MAP Sensor plug and play?

I know the IAT sensor requires a bung to be welded into the UICP.
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Are the Wideband O2 and the EVO X 3 bar MAP Sensor plug and play?

I know the IAT sensor requires a bung to be welded into the UICP.
not sure. but if your getting a MAP sensor just get the omni 4bar for the evo 8/9 ''if you own a evo 8/9'' and be done with it.

the ait needs a bung yes.
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Is this the LC-1?
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yea.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lc1.php
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not sure. but if your getting a MAP sensor just get the omni 4bar for the evo 8/9 ''if you own a evo 8/9'' and be done with it.

the ait needs a bung yes.
Do the MAP sensor and Wideband need new bungs? I'm trying to find out how much welding and where I need to have it done.

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Map sensor is a direct replacement for the factory mdp sensor.

Wideband O2 sensor needs a bung welded to the downpipe. Some do run it in the front or rear O2 locations, though. But, just get the bung welded in and be done with it.
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Do the MAP sensor and Wideband need new bungs? I'm trying to find out how much welding and where I need to have it done.

if you have a evo 8 or 9 no you dont need a bung fr the MAP. . just take the stock one off and put the new ''preferably omni 4 bar'' on. its PNP.

the wideband yes you will need a bung welded into the down pipe. make sure it is no more then 2 to 2.5 feet from the turbo. its mostly a opinion based thing on where to put it but IMO between 1 foot and 2 feet is ideal.
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