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Old Feb 1, 2012, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PrimerSdime
I have the same problem with my FIC 1100's/DW301/stock regulator. I'm thinking about installing an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator to see if it helps.
perhaps you can tweak a recently discovered fuel pump voltage switch table?

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...ion-table.html
Old Feb 2, 2012, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PrimerSdime
I have the same problem with my FIC 1100's/DW301/stock regulator. I'm thinking about installing an aftermarket fuel pressure regulator to see if it helps.
A DW301 on factory wiring will not overrun the factory FPR. With a high voltage-only rewire (what everyone sells right now), it will majorly overrun the factory FPR at idle. (So will a Walbro 255.) If you did a high voltage only rewire, your options are an aftermarket FPR or to do a rewire that preserves the low/high voltage circuit such as:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...e-circuit.html

Originally Posted by justastockevo
perhaps you can tweak a recently discovered fuel pump voltage switch table?

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ec...ion-table.html
Only works with stock wiring or a rewire that preserves the low/high voltage transition (no kits currently offer this).
Old Feb 2, 2012, 11:05 AM
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I'm on stock wiring. My fuel trims at idle are -12.5% and my mid fuel trims are +/- 2%. On both e85 and 93 octane.

I used your scaling/latency settings as a starting point for e85 and ended up not having to change anything. Just have the idle issue which I think is the pump over running the stock fpr.

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Old Feb 2, 2012, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PrimerSdime
I'm on stock wiring. My fuel trims at idle are -12.5% and my mid fuel trims are +/- 2%. On both e85 and 93 octane.

I used your scaling/latency settings as a starting point for e85 and ended up not having to change anything. Just have the idle issue which I think is the pump over running the stock fpr.
I tried a DW301 on stock fuel pump wiring on my Evo, and it definitely doesn't overrun the stock FPR at idle. Fuel pressures were exactly where they were supposed to be.
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Well, I have my injectors scaled to 1000 CC on 93 octane, using your latency settings. My long term low trims are -12.5 and my long term mid trims are +/- 3. I'm going to try raising scaling to 1100 CC to see if it helps.
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Originally Posted by PrimerSdime
Well, I have my injectors scaled to 1000 CC on 93 octane, using your latency settings. My long term low trims are -12.5 and my long term mid trims are +/- 3. I'm going to try raising scaling to 1100 CC to see if it helps.
Latency needs to change more than the scaling. Latency needs to go down a bunch, maybe 0.075 ms.
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Latency needs to change more than the scaling. Latency needs to go down a bunch, maybe 0.075 ms.
Ok cool, thanks for the tip. Should I reset fuel trims every time I make a change, or just wait for it to change on it's own?

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Old Feb 3, 2012, 10:40 PM
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I changed the 14.08v latency from 1.128ms to 1.056ms and it did the trick.

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Originally Posted by PrimerSdime
I changed the 14.08v latency from 1.128ms to 1.056ms and it did the trick.
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Excuse me I have theses Injectors.. I would like to know what would be the cons of installing injectors w/proper scaling and latencies without any further tuning( timing & fuel maps etc)
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After the injector latencies and scaling are tuned properly your open loop maps should be very close. Mine were.
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Originally Posted by PrimerSdime
After the injector latencies and scaling are tuned properly your open loop maps should be very close. Mine were.
so I should be able to cruise and idle but not boost ?
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Depends on what injector size you are coming from. Cruise and idle should be fine thou.
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coming from stock
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Originally Posted by Evoloved
so I should be able to cruise and idle but not boost ?
If your scaling and latencies are tuned well, your open loop maps should be very close. I went from stock injectors to these injectors and mine were very close.

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