speed density

b16_rex · Jan 31, 2010, 09:01 AM

Hi well i am pretty new to evos and i wanted to get my car tuned to make sure it is all good. The problem i have is i went to this shop and they just popped my hood and said i had alot of things to fix befor they would touch it. it is tuned on speed density it has no MAF sensor and a bta bov. The shop wants me to put the MAF and a recirculating bov back on it befor they will even touch it and tune it, which make me have to change it alot. It has defi boost guage, AEM wide band, greedy profecb boost controler, HKS turbo timer, gt35r turbo, 3.5" intercooler, intercooler piping, tial 50mm bov, 38mm wastegate, injectors, hks cams, supertec duel valve springs and retainers, arp headstuds. So with everything do you think i should change everything and tune it their way or keep with speed density. If keeping with speed density does anyone no a good tuner in MD, PA area. Thanks

Slo_crx1 · Jan 31, 2010, 09:10 AM

Depends on what SD ecu it's running. Is it stock ecu patched to SD, or an AEM/Apexi Power FC standalone?

Sounds to me like you need to find a better tuning shop...have you tried talking to CBRD? They're in the York PA area, good solid crew there.

jrohner · Jan 31, 2010, 09:11 AM

Then learn to tune it yourself. That shop doesn't know what's going on, so don't have them touch your car.

Evoryder · Jan 31, 2010, 09:19 AM

If you're already converted to speed density that's a good thing. Run with it and away from that shop.

lan_evo_mr9 · Jan 31, 2010, 09:20 AM

I hope you aren't going to AMS....
Take a trip up to CBRD, they will help you out. It sounds like you have a good setup and nothing should be changed.

b16_rex · Jan 31, 2010, 09:28 AM

well i have an appointment fri to go to cbrd to get them to look at the car to make sure their isnt anything wrong with the car and to go over the whole thing. Ill be up their for 2-3 hours fri morn. The only thing is that chad said that he hasnt really tuned to many cars with sd, so it sounded like coverting it to maf. it is stock ecu with sd. im not talking no trash on cbrd i trust them and want them to go over the whole car but i sounding like they werent to down for the tunning sd

b16_rex · Jan 31, 2010, 09:34 AM

cbrd did say something about the manifold that i need to change that befor tunning its like the guy i bought it from spend money and couldnt afford a mani so its a tublar that is all welded up and looks like a 5yr kid welded it looks BAD!!! so gotta sell a car to get this fix and fixed right

3SgteGuru · Jan 31, 2010, 09:34 AM

Tune it yourself (Way easier than its made out to be), or at least get Learn about tuning. I got punked by a couple tune shops already.

Not going to list names but It surprising what a some big name tuners will tell you.

b16_rex · Jan 31, 2010, 09:40 AM

well i have been reading alot on tunning but i need a cable and the programs for the laptop cause unless i see what they are talking about infront of me it looks like all jibberish. but the is the goal to learn how to do it myself i just dont wanna mess up a car i no little about ive always been a honda guy

Evoryder · Jan 31, 2010, 09:48 AM

^ Tuning is not for everyone, big mistakes can be made. Let the pro's handle it and when you're ready look into tuning yourself.

scarface2jz · Jan 31, 2010, 09:57 AM

Exactly what ^ he said, if your timing is too agressive on just 1 pull say good bye to that pretty little motor, leave the tuning to professionals, especially since it sounds like your not the type of guy that can rebuild their own motor in the driveway lol

b16_rex · Jan 31, 2010, 10:06 AM

i can rebuild a honda motor all day every day but im and mit virgin lol im use to obd0 and obd1 turbo honda motors HONDATA and evans tunning tuned. dont trust myself with tunning i guess i put to much money into it for me to worry about messing it up with a computer lol

dmoevo · Jan 31, 2010, 10:16 AM

personally I would stick with SD. SD has been nothing but great for me it has to do with the person behind the keyboard tuning the car. And Im sure with that 35r adding the maf would restrict a little airflow.

b16_rex · Jan 31, 2010, 10:27 AM

i think i may stick with the sd it seems like alot of people are liking it but like i said i no a tune is almost like life and death one wrong thing bad thing could happen. i just want it right and reliable i have the crx for a race car.

CBRD · Feb 1, 2010, 06:53 AM

we have no issue tuning it on SD, if the setup is proper,

we are concerned about the integrity of how the car is setup, it came to us once before (from a dealership) and we told them we didnt want our name on it.

Most dealers will bring us cars to fix some small things then they said "work done by cbrd" when all we did was make the car run properly for them to sell it, we didn't do the previous work on it.

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