modifying tehra patch

infini_IV · Nov 7, 2009, 04:48 AM

im considering using tephras 90550001 v5.10 patch but dont want to use all the features eg alt maps etc and would like to be able to disable this from even appearing in ecu flash. i know they can be disabled but as i dont plan on using them id like to keep it all simple the only functions id like to use are

1: Restore ICS State on Ignition
2; Flash CEL on Knock
3: Enable Spray ICS on Knock

is it possible to modify the xml. attached is the patch what would need to be changed to do this

thanks

infini_IV · Nov 7, 2009, 05:07 AM

perhaps i should ad im thnking of applying this to my .hex file not the one attached in the above file as mine is modified for 2 byte load,
if this even makes a differance

evl08 · Nov 7, 2009, 06:08 AM

When you copy over the extra XML for the v5.10 mods to the stock XML file, you can leave out the table definition if you don't want them showing up in ecuflash.

This wont stop the code in the rom from being flashed to your ecu though. By leaving out the XML for a table it just means that you don't have access to modify the values in your rom, so it will still go through any custom routines and use the default values already in the table.

V5.10 has been around for a while now and has been working fine, so I don't think you need to worry about extra features that you aren't using... just ignore them for now

jrohner · Nov 7, 2009, 09:29 AM

Just remove the stuff you don't want from the XML, or change the user level on them so you can just hide them.

infini_IV · Nov 7, 2009, 02:13 PM

no other way it can be done properly? as his patched rom doesnt look like it has 2 byte load. and i would like to keep it all simple and basic. do you think tephra would do it for me if i paid him for his time to do it?? simply what i want to do is just ad those 3 features above to my existing rom

fostytou · Nov 7, 2009, 03:14 PM

There are old threads that will give you just those three mods, with instructions on how to apply each of them seperately.

If it were me, I'd run the tephra v5.10 or v7 ROM. Theres less for YOU to mess up since the hard stuff has already been done. The roms are reliable and have some great features.

infini_IV · Nov 7, 2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fostytou

There are old threads that will give you just those three mods, with instructions on how to apply each of them seperately.

If it were me, I'd run the tephra v5.10 or v7 ROM. Theres less for YOU to mess up since the hard stuff has already been done. The roms are reliable and have some great features.

can 2 byte load mut table be added to the v5.10 as it doesnt appear to have it?

**MR Turco** · Nov 7, 2009, 04:04 PM

That is because it has 1 byte load.

I would be hesitant to suggest you touch your rom until you feel comfortable enough to not have to ask these questions. Please flash with caution.

Please search and read threads in the stikied area.

infini_IV · Nov 7, 2009, 04:34 PM

yeah i realise it has 1 byte load but id like to stick with what im familiar with and just add these 3 extra features without all the unnecessary stuff. ive tried just removing it from the xml but it doesnt work

**MR Turco** · Nov 7, 2009, 04:39 PM

just apply the 2byte addresses in the MUT table like you have in the past and it should work.

something is wrong then, if you remove it from the xml it is gone.

infini_IV · Nov 8, 2009, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fostytou

There are old threads that will give you just those three mods, with instructions on how to apply each of them seperately.

If it were me, I'd run the tephra v5.10 or v7 ROM. Theres less for YOU to mess up since the hard stuff has already been done. The roms are reliable and have some great features.

hunted high and low through these forums and cant find these patches on there own, and really dont want to have to run the whole thing, im happy to pay anyone for their time if they can help me sort this

cheers

fostytou · Nov 9, 2009, 12:43 AM

PATCH: CEL Flash on Loaded Knock
PATCH: NLTS + Valet + KnockCEL

I'd be more willing to help, but I don't think you want it. Unless you can provide some realistic/valid reason why you won't run v5.10 or v7 I'm not very willing to do anymore leg work for you.

infini_IV · Nov 9, 2009, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fostytou

PATCH: CEL Flash on Loaded Knock
PATCH: NLTS + Valet + KnockCEL

I'd be more willing to help, but I don't think you want it. Unless you can provide some realistic/valid reason why you won't run v5.10 or v7 I'm not very willing to do anymore leg work for you.

both not applicable to my 90550001. v7 doesnt suit it either. i understand i am possibly just being "difficult" however id like to keep it all plain and simple, less room for error and i really dont see the point in adding features i wont use, switching to v5.10 brings its own issues eg no 2 byte load, yes i realise it has one byte but then i need to scale it and make sure it matches in evoscan etc. etc. and im not really 100% sure id get it right and could trust the information it gives me. + im adding a whole bunch of stuff i dont want. i was hoping it was simple enough to just add these 3 features. but it appears it cant be done. i appreciate the help given. 9 times out of 10 its a simple fix that some of the experineced guys know how to sort just like that. im happy to pay my way and dont expect someone to spend time sorting my issues for nothing. just gets frustrating being told it can be done but you have to use the route taken by the majority because thats what everyone else wants and does. thanks

rolly1818 · Nov 9, 2009, 09:15 AM

its easy to do...how much you paying

and yes you can use 2 byte, i dont know why but yeah.

fostytou · Nov 9, 2009, 09:25 AM

2 byte load can be added to any rom, but there is no point to it with 1 byte around (which you will have to have a tephra rom for).

Quote:

Originally Posted by infini_IV

just gets frustrating being told it can be done but you have to use the route taken by the majority because thats what everyone else wants and does. thanks

The fortunate part about everyone wanting to do something is that it is for a reason, and provides a wide testing base of people with different methods and issues. This is how bugs get worked out. If you were to pay someone to write the patches for you and you alone.... guess who would be the tester?

Plain and simple is following the heard when you can't make waves of your own. You don't have to use any of the mods from the tephra rom that you don't want to. They can all be functionally disabled, and will not cause any interference with the normal operation of your rom.

Both of these points say 2 things:
1) You will not be addding anything you don't want. If you don't want it, hide it from view or functionally disable it. It will be like it never happened.
2) The path of least resistance is generally that of the masses. This is also generally (not always) the path that is most likely to be right.

The silly part about your 9 times out of 10 comment is that it is true. However 9.99 times out of 10 these answers are already here on the forum, well documented and tested. For anything that doesn't fit that bill, it is probably not a simple answer, and isn't documented as such for a reason. That's not to say that asking questions will never get us anywhere or that we are near "project completion", but there is a bit of a line in the sand between what is an "easy" (aka already answered) question and what will stimulate more growth in a specific area or the project overall.

As an open source community, the way to "pay your way" is to help the project, not monetarily fund a very small part of it (you probably couldn't pay enough for this stuff anyway, and that is not a comment on your pay grade, but on the value that is being provided for free).