ID2000 scaling and latency - Page 5

Tony1 · Oct 23, 2009, 10:42 AM

The injectors are not compatible with fuels with MTBE in them. You can check the MSDS for any fuel you're unsure about. If it has MTBE in it, it'll be listed in the MSDS and should be available from the manufacturers website. Q16 and VP Import are the only commonly used fuels we've seen that on. We recommend C16 and C23 for really high hp stuff.

Appauldd · Oct 23, 2009, 11:42 AM

Tony,

I appreciate the high HP requirements for the ID2000s, but what about those of us sitting in the 450whp pump 93 range? Seems that ID1000's would suffice, but in our case they may be a bit much.

Thanks.

Paul

Tony1 · Oct 27, 2009, 09:35 PM

The ID1000 is a better choice for 450whp. There's no benefit in going with the ID2000's over the ID1000's unless you need the additional fuel flow.

fostytou · Oct 27, 2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony1

The ID1000 is a better choice for 450whp. There's no benefit in going with the ID2000's over the ID1000's unless you need the additional fuel flow.

As long as you are running pump gas. Otherwise you will have to upgrade the FPR and boost up the base fuel pressure. Great for these injectors, bad for the wallet and cleanliness of the engine bay.

Fast_Freddie · Oct 28, 2009, 01:51 AM

If Tony and other forums members can come up with a solution for the hard start issue with the ID1000's, these will be the injectors I will be moving to...

R/TErnie · Oct 28, 2009, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Tony1

The injectors are not compatible with fuels with MTBE in them. You can check the MSDS for any fuel you're unsure about. If it has MTBE in it, it'll be listed in the MSDS and should be available from the manufacturers website. Q16 and VP Import are the only commonly used fuels we've seen that on. We recommend C16 and C23 for really high hp stuff.

Is this for ID1000's and ID2000's? The Trick 114 leaded I was running had assloads of MTBE in it!!!!

03whitegsr · Oct 28, 2009, 12:10 PM

Are you talking internal O-rings? Or just the fuel rail/intake manifold O-rings?

If the later, switching to viton O-rings would probably solve the problem.

Tony1 · Oct 28, 2009, 12:13 PM

This only applies to the ID2000's and it's not something that can be fixed. It's not an oring or seal, it's actually the valve of the injector that's affected.

0xDEAD · Oct 28, 2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Appauldd

Tony,

I appreciate the high HP requirements for the ID2000s, but what about those of us sitting in the 450whp pump 93 range? Seems that ID1000's would suffice, but in our case they may be a bit much.

Thanks.

Paul

You will be able to easily make 450whp on pump with the ID1000's and idle better than stock 550's.

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Originally Posted by Fast_Freddie

If Tony and other forums members can come up with a solution for the hard start issue with the ID1000's, these will be the injectors I will be moving to...

This is a myth partially perpetuated by me. I was one of the first (if not the first) to run the ID1000's in the stock ecu. My car starts fine. A friend joined the in crowd a couple weeks later when he saw how much better my car did at idle/cruise/wot operation than other companies offerings in the same cc/min class. He had the starting issues. It is hit and miss and the problem is with the evo and any aftermarket injector (even some stock injector cars). The ID1000's are fine and warm start just fine. You have just as much chance of warm starting issues on any other brand of injector as these, and once again the problem is the evo. People are still trying to solve it, and some day it will be solved, but for now, you just have to crank it twice when the car has been setting 30 mins after parking it.

Also it is not a hard start issue. They cold start fine and hot start fine. It is the heat soaked warm start that is the issue.

I had cold and warm starting issues on another brand of injector. On the ID1000's my car is fine, go figure.

Stradale · Nov 18, 2009, 10:30 AM

If I am not wrong, ID injectors are high impedance, so how stock ECU will control these injectors? Stock Injectors are low impedance right? will it be save for the stock ECU in the long run?

I am interested at ID 1000cc too ...

Tony1 · Nov 18, 2009, 10:55 AM

Any ecu can safely run high impedance injectors. Running low impedance injectors w/o a resistor or driver on an ecu not designed for it is where damage will occur.

In order to run high impedance injectors on a car setup with low impedance injectors and an injector resistor, you simply remove and bypass the injector resistor.

lillev23 · Nov 18, 2009, 07:54 PM

how would you actually bypass the resistor on an Evo VIII or IX?

8UpUrV8 · Nov 18, 2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lillev23

how would you actually bypass the resistor on an Evo VIII or IX?

A search will give better details than me, but it's a box in the engine bay with wires that you just cut and bypass. Wire strippers and some soldering will do the trick.

Tony1 · Nov 19, 2009, 07:01 AM

How to bypass the injector resistor box