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Old Nov 20, 2007, 01:42 PM   #16
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12psi off the two step instead of 6-7 like stock.
some people also do this to combat knock - for those that don't set all the octane maps the same.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 04:47 PM   #17
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It is very interesting the ethanol fuel allows with timing. Has something to do with the flame propagation stability regarding pressure (beyond the scope of my knowledge), about every ethanol timing map shows 16+º by 6000 RPM.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 12:41 AM   #18
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why is everyone posting map#1,
map#2 is the base map, or are you guys putting both maps the same?
also I agree with 25 or higher boost you need to cut back that timing. seems to much for me.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 03:42 AM   #19
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why is everyone posting map#1,
map#2 is the base map, or are you guys putting both maps the same?
also I agree with 25 or higher boost you need to cut back that timing. seems to much for me.
If you do not set all 3 maps the same, you will not have reliable numbers... the ECU uses a combination of all 3 to get the actual timing used, an no one knows the exact reason for having 3 maps, other than the fact that you need to set them all the same in order to have a repeatable tune
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 04:03 AM   #20
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lol shouldnt there be some kind of disclaimer on this thread. So someone who doesnt understand that all cars arent the same doesnt just throw one of the maps on and go boom.

On and it someone will(yeah i know im the dumbest person on here when it comes to comps) tell me how to get just my timing map up ill be more than hapy to post mine before my s1s and after.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 04:06 AM   #21
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Bring up your map and hold ALT and hit PRTSCN

Now Start > Run > mspaint

Hit CTRL + V to paste it in. Save it as a JPEG. Upload and you're done!
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 06:19 AM   #22
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Here is my current winter map ...

EDIT :: 93 oct, IX



Honestly guys, I've wanted a car that shot flames for years so I simply had to do it. It's also a nice intimidation method at the track.

(yes, I know that timing only goes to -10)
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 06:23 AM   #23
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^^ lol that made me chuckle. how much boost are you building with the 6-8degree block?
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It was at 6-7-8 and I was building about 12 psi on the line. It's probably closer to 9.5 or 10 psi with 6-8-8 ... I honestly haven't checked. I changed it last time at the track to reduce wheel spin.
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My pump gas timing map.

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Here is my current winter map ...

EDIT :: 93 oct, IX



Honestly guys, I've wanted a car that shot flames for years so I simply had to do it. It's also a nice intimidation method at the track.

(yes, I know that timing only goes to -10)

I have played around with something similar. Never had a map sensor to get good data, but it seemed like it held boost between shifts a lil better. Downside is it gets a lil annoying on the ears after awhile! haha

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It was at 6-7-8 and I was building about 12 psi on the line. It's probably closer to 9.5 or 10 psi with 6-8-8 ... I honestly haven't checked. I changed it last time at the track to reduce wheel spin.
yeah right? not sure if its just New England Dragway's terrible track prep - or maybe my crappy tires? but i don't know how some of you want more boost off the two step - i just spin and spin and spin... my best 60' is 1.8


also TouringBubble: you rule for admitting your a ricer. i find it hard to believe there isn't a little ricer in all of us who drive this car.
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yeah right? not sure if its just New England Dragway's terrible track prep - or maybe my crappy tires? but i don't know how some of you want more boost off the two step - i just spin and spin and spin... my best 60' is 1.8


also TouringBubble: you rule for admitting your a ricer. i find it hard to believe there isn't a little ricer in all of us who drive this car.
I pull low 1.7's feathering 1st, but I've landed a 1.62 when it actually hooked. I've got the benefit of track temps down here, but it's a trade off for the insane humidity.

And it would be silly for me to try to make excuses for that retarded timing on lift off. I didn't do it to hold boost on shifts (I'm using the NLTS mod) ... all it does is shoot flames. And it is AWESOME.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 09:53 AM   #29
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Any side effects from the flames? any knocks?
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LOL i shot big flames all the time but I have meth

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