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Mar 5, 2009, 07:42 AM
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that would be nice, the last load column does look considerably richer than the adjacent one, but I think it's just a fuel pressure problem. When I go above 37psi there's nothing I can do to richen it up, the IDC's rise way over 100%
my fuel system consists of the buschur twin pumps and PTE 1000cc injectors on Q16. I have a fuel rail on the way from Buschur and I want to see if that helps or not. The inlet to the rail is pretty small. I haven't disabled the relief valves on the pump yet, and if all else fails, I'll likely upgrade to 1200cc+ injectors.
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Mar 5, 2009, 07:56 AM
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I love your videos, the way you can rev it really makes your power band quite decent despite a large turbo and only 2.0 liters.
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Mar 5, 2009, 08:15 AM
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I love your videos, the way you can rev it really makes your power band quite decent despite a large turbo and only 2.0 liters.
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thanks, I've always said, a good driver never experiences lag
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Mar 5, 2009, 01:31 PM
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How are you all seeing so much load? I am only hitting 285ish on an FP Green, 93 oct, Revolver cams, boost at 26 lbs.
If I can go higher...I guess I should push the limits a bit. Am I too timid with AFR going from 12.5 down to 10.9 at 7800? I try to keep it as close to 11.4 as possible for a WOT pull.
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Mar 5, 2009, 01:43 PM
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285ish on an FP Green, 93 oct, Revolver cams, boost at 26 lbs
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there's your answer...you aren't moving nearly the amount of air as a bigger turbo/built head will.
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Mar 5, 2009, 01:46 PM
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there's your answer...you aren't moving nearly the amount of air as a bigger turbo/built head will.
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Thanks for the candid answer.
I have my fuel and timing maps scaled to 300; should I scale them to 320 to give a margin of "safety" should I get a cool day and a boost spike going up hill?
Yeah I know I am reaching....I just want to be safe.
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Mar 5, 2009, 01:51 PM
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Thanks for the candid answer.
I have my fuel and timing maps scaled to 300; should I scale them to 320 to give a margin of "safety" should I get a cool day and a boost spike going up hill?
Yeah I know I am reaching....I just want to be safe.
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the ecu isn't going to stop sending fuel if you go past 300
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Mar 5, 2009, 07:15 PM
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Are you guys talking about 2byte load or calculated load?
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Mar 5, 2009, 08:49 PM
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Drifto- 2 byte load
Mellon- It doesnt stop sending fuel but it will go into a downward spiral after the last 20% of load from the last cell.
What I have found on fuel maps with the stock MAF is that the numbers between 200 and 379 are pretty much always the same. I can have a car that runs 11.3 AFR with a cell value of 10.6 at 240 and runs 11.3 at 320 with a cell value of 10.6. Run it past though and it will start to dip rich much as time will drop aggressively after the last scaled value goes "off map".
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Mar 25, 2009, 12:50 PM
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Mellon - Did you get a chance to test out if the limit for IPW has increased to see if it richened up the higher load cells w/o having to adjust your fueling map? Just looking to verify since I'll be soon joining the big turbo/stock ecu crowd and will be pushing the limits as well.
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Mar 25, 2009, 01:19 PM
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not yet, waiting on my new fuel rail to arrive, then I'm going to load up the latest bit from john and retune it
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Apr 14, 2009, 08:03 AM
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not yet, waiting on my new fuel rail to arrive, then I'm going to load up the latest bit from john and retune it
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Just checking in to see if you received your fuel rail and were able to test
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Apr 14, 2009, 09:09 AM
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not yet :/ and I need to freshen up the clutch first
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Apr 15, 2009, 12:43 AM
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Would you guys recommend using 2byte load then instead of 1byte load?
I ask because I hit 300 on stock turbo @ 22psi. LOL
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Apr 15, 2009, 03:11 AM
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1 byte load is still good, just change the scaling from 1.2 to something bigger.
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