2nd gear = slower shift for smoothness?
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all i've done is Eibach ProKit, and an AMS catback...
i'm not sure what the deal is with the gearbox... it's not an issue for me, cause i've just adapted my shifting to the car behavior...
when i say "pause" it's a split second pause, nothing that would affect it down a 1/4 mile, but i don't race like that anyhow...
i'm not sure what the deal is with the gearbox... it's not an issue for me, cause i've just adapted my shifting to the car behavior...
when i say "pause" it's a split second pause, nothing that would affect it down a 1/4 mile, but i don't race like that anyhow...
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Have the same issue with 2nd gear on my 2010 GSR. It seems to get better as the car warms up. There seem to be quite a few posts on the issue so I'm looking for a solution. Contemplating going to the dealer and having them check it out. Previously I was driving a Cooper S with a Getrag box, overall the box in the GSR feels pretty rough by comparison.
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Same 2nd gear issue when cold on my '05 VIII. Less of an issue now, since moving from Minnesota to Massachusetts. But yeah, once its warm, second works much better. Also motivation (or an excuse) to get a remote starter!
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There is a large gear ratio change between 1st and second, also, the higher the torque multiplication, the harder it will be to engage a gear-- thus it is pretty hard to downshift back into firs. This is the reason why 1st to 2nd feels harder. 3rd should feel nice and smooth. Once the oil in the gearbox heats up all the gear changes should get slightly smoother. Since it requires more work from the synchros for 1st and 2nd, this is noticed more in those changes. Remote starter won't work much, I don't think. It is a gearbox temp thing, not an engine temp thing. The only way it may work better (my older Evo knowledge is fading... ) is if engine oil it also used on the same circuit as something in the drivetrain that could also heat gearbox fluid. I doubt this though, since overheating is usually an issue on Evo transmissions.
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The '03 has a different 1-2 gear ratio to than the later cars did. It's bigger. this would account for a slight pause between 1-2 compared to 2-3 or especially 3-4, which feels like a very fast shift to me under normal driving conditions.
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I'll bring this thread back alive lol.
The 2nd gear in my car is really sluggish everytime I shift into it.
I've driven 4 other 5 speeds before, ranging from a boosted Jetta to a WRX, and their cars seem to have a much easier transition from 1st to 2nd. It's a much faster transition, whereas my car I feel like it takes a second or two until it gets moving.
The 2nd gear in my car is really sluggish everytime I shift into it.
I've driven 4 other 5 speeds before, ranging from a boosted Jetta to a WRX, and their cars seem to have a much easier transition from 1st to 2nd. It's a much faster transition, whereas my car I feel like it takes a second or two until it gets moving.
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Well since Jakee brought the thread alive I guess I'll add that I also experience the sluggish shift into second. Also, sometimes I will shift into 3rd or 4th and the rpms drop quickly while other times they hesitate. This makes it difficult to develop any sort of rhythm or consistency. It might be worth noting that I have not owned this car for a full year and it is my first manual.
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Well since Jakee brought the thread alive I guess I'll add that I also experience the sluggish shift into second. Also, sometimes I will shift into 3rd or 4th and the rpms drop quickly while other times they hesitate. This makes it difficult to develop any sort of rhythm or consistency. It might be worth noting that I have not owned this car for a full year and it is my first manual.
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YES! haha, I thought I was going crazy or something. The RPMS drop at different speeds sometimes for me and it's almost impossible for me to get the hang of this car. I've noticed that if I have my A/C on, the RPMs seem to act differently, so I'll turn off the A/C and the RPMs seem to be more consistent but it's still hard to get that rhythm.