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Nov 6, 2008, 09:33 AM
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Asking For Some Advice......On handling
Here is a video of me racing at a track Last weekend and I did pretty could time...Others were doing 55 sec track records form other evos 2.3 and other subarus..They dont have classes everything is accept all open... So you can understand this is greece...So the only thing is i want your opion on what is you see. My time was 56.6 ..And this track is my third time others have raced here since 2005 so there is already a disadvantge...I have on my car Toyo R888 255/35/18 with work cr kai 20 offset and 18x8.5 plus KW 3 suspension and 35psi cold front and back...I had a little oversteer... Plus I was trying to set the car before i put it in the corner as you can see..I try to place it then push it..that is my way...I bought swaybars white line front and back adjustable....Should i put them on or only the rear....and stock front...thanks for your help
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85AT4ry22j0
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Nov 7, 2008, 02:09 PM
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Have you checked your alignment settings?
It's possible (probable really) that your suspension geometry is bad now from installing the coilovers which, I assume, lowered the car. If you run the suspension very tight so there is little travel, and align the car with aggressive/race settings, it's not as big of a problem. Have you considered something like the White Line Roll Center correction pieces and Rear Bump Steer correction pieces?
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Nov 8, 2008, 02:45 AM
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No i dont know about the white line roll center correction pieces..can you please send me the site to see it..And I have now on the car 4cm lowered and 3 cm rear plus my aligment is 2.5degress camber fron and rear 1.5degress and front toe is 0 and rear toe is zero....
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Have you checked your alignment settings?
It's possible (probable really) that your suspension geometry is bad now from installing the coilovers which, I assume, lowered the car. If you run the suspension very tight so there is little travel, and align the car with aggressive/race settings, it's not as big of a problem. Have you considered something like the White Line Roll Center correction pieces and Rear Bump Steer correction pieces?
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Nov 8, 2008, 07:54 AM
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Pete, looks to me like you are doing well. I am surprised that your car doesn't push but then your coilovers may be tuned for that.
a two inch drop in front may be a bit much, for sure do the roll center fix, or if you don't mind, try raising the front a cm or so. There is a point at which lowering the front causes more harm than good.
I was impressed when I raised my car from being lowered (got tired of scrapping the bumper on ramps). I also installed the roll center correction kit, between the two it turns some better.
A second or two off the mark is real good. It may be that a ride with one of the leaders would help as much as anything else.
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Nov 11, 2008, 07:08 AM
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Thanks very much for the good words i need to here some expert advice...Like I asked I am waiting to put on the sway bars white line front and back and I am going to lift the car up 1cm...I see that my car leans too much in to the corners and when i stiffen the front the car seems like it corner better...Plus I see that alot of people fix there rear diff....At TTP does that help alot of the front plowing....I want to make my car into a train on rails...then i can kick some A$$....
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Pete, looks to me like you are doing well. I am surprised that your car doesn't push but then your coilovers may be tuned for that.
a two inch drop in front may be a bit much, for sure do the roll center fix, or if you don't mind, try raising the front a cm or so. There is a point at which lowering the front causes more harm than good.
I was impressed when I raised my car from being lowered (got tired of scrapping the bumper on ramps). I also installed the roll center correction kit, between the two it turns some better.
A second or two off the mark is real good. It may be that a ride with one of the leaders would help as much as anything else.
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Nov 20, 2008, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by peteformance
Thanks very much for the good words i need to here some expert advice...Like I asked I am waiting to put on the sway bars white line front and back and I am going to lift the car up 1cm...I see that my car leans too much in to the corners and when i stiffen the front the car seems like it corner better...Plus I see that alot of people fix there rear diff....At TTP does that help alot of the front plowing....I want to make my car into a train on rails...then i can kick some A$$....
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Any other opions????It would really help
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LESS10 is a scam artist becarful
http://www.peteformance.gr/ check out my website ...
http://www.sparktechignitions.net/
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Dec 14, 2008, 10:51 AM
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Any other opions????It would really help 
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ANyone else with a good opion????thanxs
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Dec 15, 2008, 06:15 PM
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ANyone else with a good opion????thanxs
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A go cart will be a lot more fun on that trak than the EVO
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Dec 21, 2008, 04:12 PM
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1. Alignment settings - did you get corner balanced? Those tires like more camber too.
2. Roll Center Correction Kit
3. Play with tire pressures.
4. Seems you were off line and speed in some turns. Corner entry and position plays into how the car reacts both mid and exit.
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Dec 21, 2008, 04:16 PM
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Nice run use it all around I just got robi spec he did rear trailing arm bushings front and rear sway bars but you have to adjust them so you get the right feel.
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Dec 21, 2008, 06:54 PM
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That track looks small, with a lot of tight turns
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Jan 8, 2009, 01:33 AM
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in my evo 8 problem come when i m on high boost or heavy braking a nosic come on front right wheel . wheel aligment is perfect . suggest what shoud i do ?
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Jan 28, 2009, 01:43 PM
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That track looks small, with a lot of tight turns
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it is a track for racing karts...it small andvery technical...I have raced there around 3 times other guys are there from 30-100 times...the track is 2 hours away from me,....But here where i live is a track i rule...I am waiting for the race to come here...then i will let them have it....HAHAHA
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Jan 28, 2009, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SmikeEvo
1. Alignment settings - did you get corner balanced? Those tires like more camber too.
2. Roll Center Correction Kit
3. Play with tire pressures.
4. Seems you were off line and speed in some turns. Corner entry and position plays into how the car reacts both mid and exit.
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Thankx for the advice and you are right on my speed in to the corners...I need better postioning...I try to brake aim then gas it through...I always try to give it just right...And the tires i have i am still looking for the best psi...other say they need more air and others say they need little air...dam it..I am going to do what ever i think is best for my car..and now this week i am taking off the KW and putting on a new set of Coilovers with camber plates called XYZ...I am going to be dealer here in greece for these coilovers and they are awesome..I have tried them on two other evos here in greece and the are train on tracks....Plus i am going to put on my new white line sway bars front and rear and I will give front 3 camber and rear 2.5 camber...I am going to make it a train.......
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Jan 28, 2009, 01:49 PM
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Nice run use it all around I just got robi spec he did rear trailing arm bushings front and rear sway bars but you have to adjust them so you get the right feel.
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I want to get rm bushings too how much did it cost you?????
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