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Old Oct 19, 2009, 08:51 AM   #1
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Cellulosic ethanol plant opens in Pennsylvania

Ethanol from anything containing carbon:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/18/c...l-plant-opens/
http://www.bostonherald.com/business...g_ethanol_fuel
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10375784-54.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/15/bu...15biofuel.html
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/car...orefinery.html

GM's a big player with these guys. It's only a demo at this point, but it's one hell of a demo.

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Old Oct 19, 2009, 01:01 PM   #2
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These are great articles, E85 is the way to go!
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Old Oct 19, 2009, 02:59 PM   #3
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Thanks Logic. Great coverage.

We spend a huge amount of money in this country shipping gasoline and diesel to all of the out-of-the-way places. And since oil refineries are primarily concentrated in so few places, that means most of the nation is located in an out-of-the-way place when it comes to refined petroleum products.

Enter ethanol. It can be made from just about anything: feed corn, sugar cane, wheat grass, algae, land fill contents, wood chips, yada, yada, yada. For the first time in our country's history we could embark on a distributed and localized energy source. Small to medium sized ethanol refineries could be scattered all over the country, using local fuels and providing local energy.

Our country has never had this before. Now, our liquid fuels (primarily gasoline and diesel), our electricity, and even our gaseous energies, are produced by large plants often hundreds or thousands of miles away from the end user.

Not only will a distributed energy source be less costly, it will be safer, and very importantly, will make our country much safer as well.

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Old Oct 22, 2009, 12:27 PM   #4
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I hope it pans out as well as they are claiming. That's BIG news on the energy front and could have a dramatic and positive impact on world history.

Too have a NET power output from non-fossil fuels is a seemingly big deal, as thus far, bio-fuels have needed more enrgy to be produced then they actually created.

Even if it's just a break even though, the energy used for conversion can come from clean, renewable resources like wind, solar, and hydro power plants.


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