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Aug 27, 2009, 07:48 AM
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Curious about DLL and how accurate the HP/TQ #'s are compared to a mustang or dynojet
Just curious. I've been working with someone to get my car straightened out (mellon I'll come and see you later this year) and I think we are as far as we dare go on E-85 (tuning pump after this tank of E runs out......BOOOOOOOO).
My question is I know if the DLL has the correct parameters its pretty accurate, and I know that its not an exact formula (DLL reads X% above below what a mustang would read on X day, etc) but am I am looking for some generalities.
After I get tuned on 93 i plan to hit the dyno to see what the actual numbers are (and get a better sense of how close the DLL is to actual numbers.
Hopefully Chris, Mike or some of the other guys I have seen post DLL plots/graphs chime in and give me an idea. I know the car feels stupid fast on E85 so the numbers don't really matter that much to me bt it would be nice to know what to expect.
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Aug 27, 2009, 08:03 AM
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i probably should've posted this in the ECUFlash forum. Sorry guys
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BC Racing Inverted Coilovers
60 mm Defi BF Boost, Water Temp, Oil Pressure
Gruppe-S Gauge Panel
AEM UEGO
Perrin Air Filter
1200cc PTE
Walbro 255
3000/6000k HID f-lights/h-beams
Ebay 02 Housing
Kelford 272's
Supertech Dual valve springs/retainers
HKS EVC VI
APS BOV
Shep Stage 2 TCase/Tranny
ATS Triple Carbon Clutch/Flywheel
Rota Grid 18X9.5 +20
JDM Rear tail lights/Bumper
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Aug 27, 2009, 08:26 AM
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Try doing a run file on VDR and see how it compares. It seems the VDR is pretty close to the real thing.
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E85 duel tephra V7 map/ J O T switch/ Fast Freddie UEGO harness adapter/ GM 3 port and some other stuff
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My motors always were more tolerant to detonation when I ran with blown headgaskets. They were always faster.
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Aug 27, 2009, 09:01 AM
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I don't have access to a windows laptop right now...maybe later today I'll try.
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BC Racing Inverted Coilovers
60 mm Defi BF Boost, Water Temp, Oil Pressure
Gruppe-S Gauge Panel
AEM UEGO
Perrin Air Filter
1200cc PTE
Walbro 255
3000/6000k HID f-lights/h-beams
Ebay 02 Housing
Kelford 272's
Supertech Dual valve springs/retainers
HKS EVC VI
APS BOV
Shep Stage 2 TCase/Tranny
ATS Triple Carbon Clutch/Flywheel
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Aug 27, 2009, 09:08 AM
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When Mellon was at the mwe meet we talked about it right before he dynoed. The DLL read alittle less than the dynojet dyno and a little more than a mustang. It seemed like a very good middle ground.
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Aug 27, 2009, 09:14 AM
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Thats cool....I'm not disappointed with the mods I do have making the power I am.....right now the weakest link is the turbo and IC......I hope I don't have ot run a double pumper or some other sort of fuel solution for an HTA green or CBRD blue on E.
I'm trying to make it to 500 on E so I think I'm close...I'm hoping an uprated turbo, good IC and piping, Fullrace/Shearer/JMFab manifold will get me close....I wouldn't be mad with 450
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Greddy Ti-C TBE
BC Racing Inverted Coilovers
60 mm Defi BF Boost, Water Temp, Oil Pressure
Gruppe-S Gauge Panel
AEM UEGO
Perrin Air Filter
1200cc PTE
Walbro 255
3000/6000k HID f-lights/h-beams
Ebay 02 Housing
Kelford 272's
Supertech Dual valve springs/retainers
HKS EVC VI
APS BOV
Shep Stage 2 TCase/Tranny
ATS Triple Carbon Clutch/Flywheel
Rota Grid 18X9.5 +20
JDM Rear tail lights/Bumper
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Aug 27, 2009, 09:17 AM
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In my expierence the way i had DLL set up was exactly what I made on a dynojet -
Both these graphs are of my car + exhaust + 94 octane
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Aug 27, 2009, 04:40 PM
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I'm probably going to go to our local heart breaker a 350 there is a 375 or more at other dyno's in Atlanta.
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60 mm Defi BF Boost, Water Temp, Oil Pressure
Gruppe-S Gauge Panel
AEM UEGO
Perrin Air Filter
1200cc PTE
Walbro 255
3000/6000k HID f-lights/h-beams
Ebay 02 Housing
Kelford 272's
Supertech Dual valve springs/retainers
HKS EVC VI
APS BOV
Shep Stage 2 TCase/Tranny
ATS Triple Carbon Clutch/Flywheel
Rota Grid 18X9.5 +20
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Aug 27, 2009, 05:02 PM
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Aug 27, 2009, 10:25 PM
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So it reads a little lower then dynojet but probably a little higher on a mustang dyno
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60 mm Defi BF Boost, Water Temp, Oil Pressure
Gruppe-S Gauge Panel
AEM UEGO
Perrin Air Filter
1200cc PTE
Walbro 255
3000/6000k HID f-lights/h-beams
Ebay 02 Housing
Kelford 272's
Supertech Dual valve springs/retainers
HKS EVC VI
APS BOV
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Aug 28, 2009, 01:50 PM
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yep, on average, that's what I've been telling my customers for years.
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