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Old Apr 29, 2009, 07:07 PM   #1
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Are the Greenies confused?

Sometimes things totally amaze me, and this is one of those times.

GREENCAR.COM publishes a Top 5 Green Car list each year; then they select one as THE green car of the year.

For this year (2009) the Top Five Green Cars are, in no particular order:
BMW 335d
Ford Fusion Hybrid
Saturn Vue 2 Mode Hybrid
Smart ForTwo
VW Jetta TDI

These are all good cars, don't get me wrong. But, all five of these vehicles run exclusively on crude oil. No Flex-Fuel. No E85. No type of renewable energy whatsoever. (And yet none of these get anywhere near the fuel mileage of the Prius.)

BTW, the VW was selected the Green Car of the Year 2009.

RANT: How does Saturn get away with a "Saturn Vue 2 Mode Hybrid". It ONLY runs on crude oil. That seems like just one mode to me. Now, when the 2010 plug-in version comes to market, then it will accurately be a "2 Mode". Maybe they are simply trying to stay ahead of the curve. Maybe the next EVO should be the XII. /RANT

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Old Aug 13, 2009, 10:44 AM   #2
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People are still getting rich off that crude oil! If someone starts messing with the rich people bank account, that someone may get shot.
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Old Aug 13, 2009, 11:16 AM   #3
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Maybe greencar.com is funded by oil companies?
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I somehow don't see how its a green car if its run on regular pump gas. They should rename it the cars with the best fuel economy.
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Thw new Jetta TDI is a BIN 5 engine which gives you a tax break and has the lowest emissions for a diesel. Not to mention it has the most power and torque of them all. A very fun and drivable car. I'm a master VW tech and have driven many of these new ones- you can't even tell it's a diesel. The fuel mileage on these is pretty impressive for the amount of pwr/trq it has.
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Around me the price of Diesel has eclipsed even premium...I'd be pissed if I owned a Diesel car.
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Around me the price of Diesel has eclipsed even premium...I'd be pissed if I owned a Diesel car.
That's true in some areas. By me, it's about equal with premium. But you have to figure, it's only a waste if diesel is double the price of regular/premium because the TDI gets double the gas mileage of any "normal" car.
I've driven a loaner car home and was able to achieve almost 60 mpg on the hwy. That's with accessories and A/C on mind you.
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