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Old Aug 30, 2009, 08:24 PM   #1
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How do these numbers look?

I recently installed a Cobb Acessport with the stage 2 map. Other mods are in my signature.

With the AP I can monitor engine knock sum, timing, etc. But, what numbers should I be looking for with knock sum and timing? I want to make sure I'm running good, but I have heard different range of numbers. And what would happen if the knock sum is greater than the normal values?

Also, if someone could give me a better definition of knock and timing I would appreciate it. I'm somewhat new to tuning.

Thanks in advance!!
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Old Aug 30, 2009, 09:03 PM   #2
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Knock is detonation, Timing is when energy is sent to the spark aka ignition. Detonation is premature ignition or ignition from source other than the plug.

This is how I understand it. I am no engineer. It is worth a wiki.
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Old Aug 30, 2009, 09:13 PM   #3
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For Evo 8s <= 3 counts of knock is ok, ideally you want as much timing as possible without knock, but that's theory. In practice, with your logs, determine where the knock is happenening (what rpm range and timing and AFR values etc) and either decrease timing, encrease fuel mix (lower AFR) or both.

Knock can be attributed to many factors (ones listed above) and grade of fuel ... you can try keeping your current timing and AFR values and run higher octane fuel to reduce knock.
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Old Aug 30, 2009, 09:31 PM   #4
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ok thanks. I was told <=3 but also heard 7-8 is ok. I have hit up to 10 sometimes, but i will have to take notice of where those spikes occur.
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Old Sep 8, 2009, 04:21 PM   #5
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3 is normal anything over three with WOT is not good....
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