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Originally Posted by Neteru
i've found that many tuner shops don't even want to be bother with installing meth kits.
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Not that I'm sure in the specifics of who you talked to but in general terms I can tell you that W/A injection has a rap just like nitrous had years ago. As with nitrous there was a lot of mis-information and a lot of bad hardware floating around a long with bad installs. This led to many people in the performance business not trusting what the system could do if applied properly.
Another issue semi related is that for a long time the typical kit did not have a failsafe feature. For a tuner to see the results of using W/A injection, primary fuel needs to be removed. Removing some of the primary fuel via tuning so as to see the best results of W/A injection, means that without a properly functioning & working W/A system a "Lean tune" could be very dangerous to the engine....................this puts the tuner at risk for releasing a car as "being professionally tuned" that can be pretty ugly if W/A failure. A car tuned for W/A needs to have a failsafe feature in order for a tuner to trust it.
In simple terms a tuner needs to have faith in the hardware being used and know that the hardware will not let him/her down later on with regards to reputation/bad customer relations = blown motor due to W/A failure.
It may come off as a blatant plug, but the biggest two jumps in W/A technology has been to
1) improve on the quality of the hardware being used
and
2) a properly functioning system for monitoring and built in fail safe control.
As for # 1: Aquamist has been in the process of putting out products using quality hardware that are specificlly designed for W/A injection............not off the shelf existing hardware re-purposed for the task. As an example, when it came to factory backed rally racing the teams were using Aquamist = they recognized the benefit of water injection, so they looked for quality first, not cost savings.
As for #2: Years ago Aquamist recognized the importance of a properly functioning failsafe AND have it integrated into the system. This was before others were looking at doing this...........more advanced then just an idiot lamp denoting the system was on or armed. Aquamist's direction in this area is that the failsafe is part of the overall system and not an add on.
What I'm getting at is that I know some tuners who will not install W/A kits or tune for W/A injection unless the kit is an Aquamist kit........they do not want to play around with the low end systems so they elect to pass on some W/A tuning opportunities if they know the end user is using a low end kit or is not really interested in a true modern W/A kit. This is true not only for W/A injection but same as when other performance enhancing hardware is being used/implemented that has an effect on the tuners work.